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  • texasmade
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    • Jan 2009
    • 4159

    Ignorance?

    http://www.facebook.com/note.php?not...d/411073718434

    I agree with the sister of one of the 9/11 victims (and a New York resident) who said: “This is a place which is 600 feet from where almost 3,000 people were torn to pieces by Islamic extremists. I think that it is incredibly insensitive and audacious really for them to build a mosque, not only on that site, but to do it specifically so that they could be in proximity to where that atrocity happened.”
  • lxskllr
    Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 13435

    #2
    Well, if they own the property, I guess they can do what they want with it. Not the best idea imo.

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    • WickedKitchen
      Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 2528

      #3
      I agree with it being insensitive, but I don't think it can be stopped. In fact, if it is stopped then it will most likely be fuel for the extremists' fire. I think the problem is that there are many people that link Islam with extremism. All of Islam is not bad and by denying this mosque it will only fortify that link. I think it's human nature to be on guard for potential dangers and unfortunately this will cause unrest in the community if those dangers don't, in fact, exist. I guess it's a form of profiling and I'm torn on that. I am one that doesn't think that profiling is a bad thing in most cases.

      So what are we saying? No, you can't built a mosque here because we're afraid that some wackos might come and do something bad? I'm not so sure America would see that as a good enough reason. Problem is...it's happened in the Islamic community already. It's happened in other groups as well...and it will continue to happen. I for one, would like to see Islam come down on the extremists. Perhaps if there were more of that the local community would be a little more accepting.

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      • tom502
        Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 8985

        #4
        I'm not sure I agree with "not all Islam is bad", but I will say not all Muslims are bad. Well, I do think the Quran Only movement seems pretty good, as they do not accept sharia, and haditha, but then to most all Muslims they are heretics, and one of their leaders was killed.

        I think the Mosque is bad taste. Because, whether who os building it, is an extremist or not, and there is reports of connections, in the eyes of the terrorists, this is a holy jihad muslim war, and to erect a mosque on an area associated with 9-11, is sorta like how the Muslim invaders would destroy Hindu Temples and build Mosques on top of them, or even the how the Christians would build churches ontop of European pagan spaces.

        It seems arrogant and disrespectful.

        They should find a different location.

        Why can't some rich Buddhists build a giant Dharma Center there instead?

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        • WickedKitchen
          Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 2528

          #5
          I think Tom worded it better, not all Muslims are bad. That's what I had meant anyhow.

          I think all of America is associated with 911.

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          • texastorm
            Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 386

            #6
            So not all Muslims are terrorist. Most Muslims want peace on earth and good will towards the infidels.

            I would compare this to letting a KKK group build a facility on the spot were they burned a black church to the ground. While you may not agree with the message of the KKK I am sure many of them mean well... right?

            Anyone?

            Bueler? Bueler?


            Ok who farted?

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            • LaZeR
              Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 3994

              #7
              An eye for an eye. Just put up a friggen cartoon figure making fun of Allah on a big billboard right next door.

              /Thread.

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              • truthwolf1
                Member
                • Oct 2008
                • 2696

                #8
                Dont really care because there are so many unanswered questions about that event and who was involved.
                If as a nation we are forced to move on and not question then go right ahead and build a boogieman mosque.

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                • sgreger1
                  Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 9451

                  #9
                  This is America. If they own the land they can do as they please.


                  I think it's a spit in our face but we lose either way here. If we let them build it, then the extremists will say "Look, we built a mosque on the ashes of the americans, a great victory!", if we don't let them build it, it will just fuel more extremism because they will say thy are being singled out and descriminated etc etc.

                  So while I think theyr dicks for doing it, and it's a bad idea... if they own the land than this is still America and as long as they can get the zoning permit than they can do as they please.

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                  • dxh
                    Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 340

                    #10
                    Is there not already a mosque there? I thought they were just doing additions, not building a new mosque. Either way, I think it is important that we continue the idea that this is a free country where people can build what they want on their land as long as it is law abiding.

                    I also lived in New York state for 8 years, worked in the city. I have a lot of love for New York and the people there. So I do not say these things lightly. I do not like the idea of a great new mosque so close to ground zero, but I truly want this to be a free country.

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                    • texastorm
                      Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 386

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dxh View Post
                      Is there not already a mosque there? I thought they were just doing additions, not building a new mosque. Either way, I think it is important that we continue the idea that this is a free country where people can build what they want on their land as long as it is law abiding.
                      No one is saying we shouldn't allow it, only that it is a dick move.

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                      • texasmade
                        Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 4159

                        #12
                        The Taliban offered to hand over Osama bin Laden before we went to war, all bush had to do was show them his "overwhelming evidence."

                        Who would be protesting if someone wanted to put a church up next to the Murrah Buildings?

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                        • MGX
                          Member
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 127

                          #13
                          What the hell makes you think Tim McVeigh was Christian? He claimed to be agnostic.

                          None would protest a church next to the Murrah building except several already exist in downtown OKc.

                          PS McVeigh didn't act out of any religious conviction

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                          • tom502
                            Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 8985

                            #14
                            McVeigh was not on a Christian jihad, he did not do it in the name of Jesus.
                            Islamic terrorists though, do it in the name of their religion, and their god Allah.

                            These 2 are not comparable.

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                            • texasmade
                              Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 4159

                              #15
                              What the hell makes people think that It's ok to generalize a whole religions followers as extremists.

                              Last I checked most Muslims I know were more accepting than the Christians I've come into contact with.

                              Agnostic is just a way of saying there may be a God without committing to a religion.

                              Why don't we start saying that churches are hotbeds for racist activity and used to plan hate crimes.

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