Originally posted by CoderGuy
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Well if you ask me, there appears to be 2 seperate phenomena happening simultaneously here. On one hand you have this one kind of ship, the flying disc one, that has been seen in paintings that date back thousands of years, that are reported daily, and that generally constitute the "flying saucer" description.
Those all seem to do the same thing; they come, they stay for a minute, then leave. During WWII they easily outpaced our fighters and even modern day jets seem unable to compete with them. The important thing here is that this type of UFO has a consistent description of what it looks like, and a consistent description of what it's doing. This has always been the traditional flying saucer and seems to account for the vast majority of sightings. They are small, capable of holding maybe 3 midgets, (allegedly). These craft are sometimes cloaked, usually don't have lights, or when they do have lights they are a weird combination of changes in color and amplitude, not like running lights on our aircraft.
This is the UFO we have all come to know, the roswell flying saucer type of UFO.
Then, more recently, we have began seeing a new kind of aircraft: The black triangle tom is always talking about.
This UFO seems to be from a completely different school than the common flying saucer type. This one is a giant black rectangle as opposed to a small metalic disc, almost always described as being HUGE, like the size of a city, and always moving very slow with 3 (usually orange) running lights on each point of the triangle.
This one is what is getting my attention lately, because it is clearly not following the same rules as the traditional disc shaped flying saucer. For one, it has running lights. These lights turn off sometimes, but still, it has what appears to be clear running lights on it. It is also very slow, though they have been seen to move fast on their egress/ingress, but while hovering over a city they are extremely slow like an aircraft carrier.
Unlike the small flying saucer UFO's, this craft does not seem to be afraid of people, rather it seems drawn to them. The traditional flying saucers like to pop in somewhere, sit there for a second them disspear at light speed in another direction, whereas this craft seems to only hover over cities where it draws enormous crowds, and it is never cloaked (odd that the small ones avoid contact but these black triangles seem to want to put on a show). This was represented well in the pheonix lights incident where every city official all the way from local cops up to the mayor saw the black triangle hovering there for hours. There was no question about whether it was or was not present in Arizona, everyone saw it.
But why, why such different behavior, why a different craft design all of a sudden? All the flying discs look the same and their design remains consistent throughout the various accounts dating back thousands of years. But then suddenly, seemingly for no reason, the ship design changes from this versatile flying disk to a giant slow moving aircraft carrier that appears to act more like it's being controlled by humans. It also seems to be made of a black alloy or painted black, whereas every other flying saucer is a metalic silver color. Again, why use different construction materials, or why paint it black. If the point is to not be seen, we know they have cloaking devices so painting it black and driving it only at night seems primitive. Additionally, it leaves the running lights on so it wants it's presence to be known.
I think 2 things are happenign here and we are mistaking them for the same thing. We have one kind of craft that seems to be magical and never appears for more than a second, then we have a second type of craft that seems to utlizie some but not all of the technology present on the smaller craft. It seems like there are 2 groups at play here, with different designs and different technological limitations.
It could be possible that on one hand there is a genuine alien presence, and on the other hand we have humans who have reverse engineered some but not all of this technology and made their own ships. One group seems to want nothing to do with us and tries to avoid drawing attention, whereas the other seems to like to park it's aircraft carrier over major cities with the lights on. The fact that jets are not scrambled to come deal with a giant hovering black mothership tells me that the government is complicit with it's actions and has been told not to fire on it's own or something, I couldn't imagine somethign that big sitting over a city for hours without jets being scrambled.
Again, this is all in sgreger1's fantasy and is completely 100% baseless speculation going on no evidence. But for the sake of this conversation, it appears that we are dealing with at least two different groups that employ at least 2 different types of technology. I think the black triangle ones may be ours, they don't folllow the consistent pattern that we observe with traditional UFO's. Either that or whoever owns the small flying saucers has a new toy that for some reason they plan to use differently, the black ones are to draw attention not to fly around like the flying saucers.
And really, would you be dumb enough to send an aircraft carrier over a major city on a foreign planet without expecting them to notice, without taking into account the fact that we have jets, without realizing through studying our history that our standing operating procedure is to shoot down anything we can't identify. It just doens't seem logical at all. Could you imagine the resource cost of sending a ship the size of a city all the way through deep space to earth? And for what, to park it over our cities and leave the lights on? No, no one would come that far with a mothership just to park it and be seen yet not communicate.
Either the aliens are really stupid, really cocky, or these ships are operated by humans. Based on the fact that there really isn't any evidence for aliens, I gotta assume that most of what we are seeing must be created by humans. But if humans created ships capable of light speed travel back in WWII, we would have used them by now during one of our wars. The fact that we havn't makes me skeptical that humans own these, to own something for that long and not use it is not typical of our government, especially considering that light speed technology and cloaking would mean we never lose wars again.
The big question: If humans have this technology, than we must have had it for a long time since we've been seing these UFO's for a while now. But if we had this kind of tech in the 50's why has it yet to be spotted on the battlefield? Why aren't our generals crushing the enemy with it? I just don't think humans could have this kind of power without ever using it during a war.
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