The alien anal probe thread

[Roo]

Concede? Ken have you figured out yet that this is not a debate forum? I like to call out BS sometimes too but Christ man, pick your battles.

[tom502]

I'm not the one that said it was flares. I think it's ET craft. The one who believes it's flares, needs to show some footage of flares that shows that is what it is.

[sgreger1]

I'd have to see some footage of known flares and compare. To me, it doesn't seem like flares. This is also being discussed at Above Top Secret forum, and I haven't heard anyone say flare yet, but someone did say stealth plane, but I don't think one just hovers in the sky like that. These shots were in Colorado, I don't know of any military bases there, or no one has mentioned any.

Ft Carson is in Colorado, I have a few friends stationed there, but again I wouldn't expect flares to be shot anywhere that's close to a city, but the guy filming this is pretty far away so it's hard to tell even what altitude these lights are at or even where they are orriginating from (it's dark outside so can't se landmarks). Looking diagonally up at something at a great distance makes it almost impossible to guage it's size or anything in any accurate way.



It is kind of odd that they didn't float down after 7 minutes of video, but again i've seen that happen before with my own eyes and have seen patters that look EXACTLY like those this video, but usually they fall to the ground after a minute or so, it would require semi-rare conditions to create what appears to be happning in this in this video. I guess the real problem is that YET AGAIN the guy filming this doesn't see it all the way through, he turns off the camera at some point so we don't get to see if the lights ever float down to the ground or not. If at some point they fell, they are flares, if the stayed there, than it is not flares.



I'm just saying that the color and way the lights are moving is entirely consistent with flares, I myself have pulled the trigger on these things and this looks exactly like a flare, especially the color of the lights. The lights seem to be floating more than moving around intelligently, but it's hard to say.


I too wish this was a UFO but can't really say when all we have to go off is lights. When we see lights floating in the sky, we can't jump straight to "it must be an alien space ship". Lots of things float around our skies at night and to me this looks like flares, though as always I reserve the right to be proven wrong.


If this was not around Ft Carson, than probably not flares. So find out if it was anywhere near Ft. Carson and you'll have your answer. They wouldn't shoot artillery flares over someones house unless something special was happening that day which the news would have been able to find out after 10 minutes. Either they didn't vet the info or ask the military or it is in fact not from the military, who knows.




EDIT: I remember this one time we shot this fire mission where you shoot a flare first, which illuminates the place you want to blow up for you, then we launch a volley of high-explosive rounds to kill it, then keep shooting flares at certain intervals to keep the light source consistent. Anyways, one of the flairs WOULD NOT come down. The thing staid up there until it burned out, just like in this video. The air was just warm enough to where it was keeping it in a low pressure pocket and the thing hovered there for forever until it eventually burned out. The actual parachute probably staid up there for quit some time. This kind of thing you are seeing in the video isn't a rare thing by any means and could very easily be explained by artillery flares.

[tom502]

[devilock76]

Concede? Ken have you figured out yet that this is not a debate forum? I like to call out BS sometimes too but Christ man, pick your battles.

I couldn't resist after he wants comparative source material, considering past discussions. It was tongue in cheek though. Chill, there are more important net nanny tasks out there.

Ken

[sgreger1]

Tom, plug this into youtube: "105mm howitzer illumination mission"

Should get you some footage of artillery flare/illumination missions. There are so many different ways of doing it and even different kinds of rounds. Sometimes the objective is to light something up very briefly so you can hit it with bombs, sometimes it is night time and we are looking for someone so we illuminate a whole city by pumping flares at regular intervals to keep the whole place lit up, then there are marking missions where the objective is to mark a specific target by launching a flare right over it, the flare will then sit there and in theory only target that one spot for an extended period of time. There is just so many different things that could be happening in this video. The lights go on and off a few times in the video, this may be 1 flare burning out and another one just coming on station to take it's place, hence creating the illusion that the flare is consistently burning in the same place. This is easy to accomplish even though it sounds hard, I could replace a flare that's about to go out with a new working flare and have them timed to turn off/turn on at almost the same second so there is no gap in light coverage during the transition (which is the whole point). They have it down to a science, trust me.


I promise you, I have seen this with my own eyes so many hundreds and hundreds of times. I have made the exact same kind of patters you are looking at with my own hands, with my finger firing the shot or calling it in from a remote location somewhere on the range itself. I really think this is artillery flares too, unless this isn't around Ft. Carson. If it's over a city than I have no explanation. But when something looks like x, I have to assume it's x until proven otherwise.

[CoderGuy]

Pretty good interview. The anchors genuinely sounded interested in the process, rather than mocking it like so many do.

[Roo]

Chill, there are more important net nanny tasks out there.

Ken

Lol, that was my point. "Net nanny", I like that. That is new to me.

[sgreger1]

First hand testimony from ABC news article:


"It was exactly something like that where you see an object and they all got into a pattern and they stood in a pattern, and they all moved in a direction and then they pretty much dropped and that was it," Valdez said.


/flare

[tom502]

You might be right, it's hard to tell in the night sky. I wish someone used some nightvision and we could see. It brings to mind though to me, those giant triangle ship that have been seen, where the body of it can be seen.

[sgreger1]

You might be right, it's hard to tell in the night sky. I wish someone used some nightvision and we could see. It brings to mind though to me, those giant triangle ship that have been seen, where the body of it can be seen.

I agree, the triangle ship + lights thing has been seen by everyone including mayors and politicians and cops and plice chiefs etc. I have no doubt that the triangle ships exist,but have no way of knowing if they are ours or someone elses. But I don't think this video is a UFO personally.

You are right about the night vision thing though, the IR frequency allows you to really see a lot more details at night. I am waiting for the day that night vision (real night vision) becomes standard on mobile phones and such. Then we may start seeing some better pictures. At night time lights can mean anything, but infrared light can be even more telling.

I would love to see the price of thermal scopes go down as well. Getting a snapshot of this thing's heat signature would really help establish if it is 3 seperate lights/flares r if it is one giant thing moving around.


Someday technology will be there and people will have better tools to take these videos with, until then they all remain shaky and unconvincing. But I know something is ou there, we just havn't proven it yet.

[tom502]

They seem to be dropping with a smoke coming from the top, the vid of the current thing really seems to stay static for a long time and doesn't appear to be drifting flares falling. Maybe... I don't know.

[truthwolf1]

I just dont understand why a advanced species who is secretly wathcing us would use any kind of lights on the outside of a ship? unless it is from a energy source for movement. This is why many of the triangle sightings I dont think could be anything else but a human.

The sightings in broad daylight light however like the huge disk seen by those on the plane in England and the UFO hovering over CHicago I believe are the real deal.

[tom502]

I tend to think ET craft would be cloaked and not even visible, but then, I think many of the sightings may be true, so who knows?

[truthwolf1]

What is baffling my mind today is the many witness accounts of seeing a UFO and then immediately seeing more then 10 helicopters hovering soon after. In this video they claim to have seen over 20.

Why not 1 or 2 helicopters? what is the need for so many? In case of a alien or top secret technology crash to scoop everything up as quick as possible?