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  • sgreger1
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    • Mar 2009
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    Originally posted by CoderGuy View Post
    After watching the Orion Conspiracy, I am convinced they are nothing but human craft driven by humans and the anal probes are just something they do for fun to push along the misinformation. The crafts are most likely based originally on alien technology though. I think the aliens probably showed up early in human development to help the race along and once we started thinking on our own they moved on to another primitive planet. The rest is just us seeing real UFOs (actually Unidentified Flying Objects) created by various governments.




    Well if you ask me, there appears to be 2 seperate phenomena happening simultaneously here. On one hand you have this one kind of ship, the flying disc one, that has been seen in paintings that date back thousands of years, that are reported daily, and that generally constitute the "flying saucer" description.
    Those all seem to do the same thing; they come, they stay for a minute, then leave. During WWII they easily outpaced our fighters and even modern day jets seem unable to compete with them. The important thing here is that this type of UFO has a consistent description of what it looks like, and a consistent description of what it's doing. This has always been the traditional flying saucer and seems to account for the vast majority of sightings. They are small, capable of holding maybe 3 midgets, (allegedly). These craft are sometimes cloaked, usually don't have lights, or when they do have lights they are a weird combination of changes in color and amplitude, not like running lights on our aircraft.

    This is the UFO we have all come to know, the roswell flying saucer type of UFO.

    Then, more recently, we have began seeing a new kind of aircraft: The black triangle tom is always talking about.

    This UFO seems to be from a completely different school than the common flying saucer type. This one is a giant black rectangle as opposed to a small metalic disc, almost always described as being HUGE, like the size of a city, and always moving very slow with 3 (usually orange) running lights on each point of the triangle.

    This one is what is getting my attention lately, because it is clearly not following the same rules as the traditional disc shaped flying saucer. For one, it has running lights. These lights turn off sometimes, but still, it has what appears to be clear running lights on it. It is also very slow, though they have been seen to move fast on their egress/ingress, but while hovering over a city they are extremely slow like an aircraft carrier.

    Unlike the small flying saucer UFO's, this craft does not seem to be afraid of people, rather it seems drawn to them. The traditional flying saucers like to pop in somewhere, sit there for a second them disspear at light speed in another direction, whereas this craft seems to only hover over cities where it draws enormous crowds, and it is never cloaked (odd that the small ones avoid contact but these black triangles seem to want to put on a show). This was represented well in the pheonix lights incident where every city official all the way from local cops up to the mayor saw the black triangle hovering there for hours. There was no question about whether it was or was not present in Arizona, everyone saw it.

    But why, why such different behavior, why a different craft design all of a sudden? All the flying discs look the same and their design remains consistent throughout the various accounts dating back thousands of years. But then suddenly, seemingly for no reason, the ship design changes from this versatile flying disk to a giant slow moving aircraft carrier that appears to act more like it's being controlled by humans. It also seems to be made of a black alloy or painted black, whereas every other flying saucer is a metalic silver color. Again, why use different construction materials, or why paint it black. If the point is to not be seen, we know they have cloaking devices so painting it black and driving it only at night seems primitive. Additionally, it leaves the running lights on so it wants it's presence to be known.


    I think 2 things are happenign here and we are mistaking them for the same thing. We have one kind of craft that seems to be magical and never appears for more than a second, then we have a second type of craft that seems to utlizie some but not all of the technology present on the smaller craft. It seems like there are 2 groups at play here, with different designs and different technological limitations.

    It could be possible that on one hand there is a genuine alien presence, and on the other hand we have humans who have reverse engineered some but not all of this technology and made their own ships. One group seems to want nothing to do with us and tries to avoid drawing attention, whereas the other seems to like to park it's aircraft carrier over major cities with the lights on. The fact that jets are not scrambled to come deal with a giant hovering black mothership tells me that the government is complicit with it's actions and has been told not to fire on it's own or something, I couldn't imagine somethign that big sitting over a city for hours without jets being scrambled.


    Again, this is all in sgreger1's fantasy and is completely 100% baseless speculation going on no evidence. But for the sake of this conversation, it appears that we are dealing with at least two different groups that employ at least 2 different types of technology. I think the black triangle ones may be ours, they don't folllow the consistent pattern that we observe with traditional UFO's. Either that or whoever owns the small flying saucers has a new toy that for some reason they plan to use differently, the black ones are to draw attention not to fly around like the flying saucers.


    And really, would you be dumb enough to send an aircraft carrier over a major city on a foreign planet without expecting them to notice, without taking into account the fact that we have jets, without realizing through studying our history that our standing operating procedure is to shoot down anything we can't identify. It just doens't seem logical at all. Could you imagine the resource cost of sending a ship the size of a city all the way through deep space to earth? And for what, to park it over our cities and leave the lights on? No, no one would come that far with a mothership just to park it and be seen yet not communicate.

    Either the aliens are really stupid, really cocky, or these ships are operated by humans. Based on the fact that there really isn't any evidence for aliens, I gotta assume that most of what we are seeing must be created by humans. But if humans created ships capable of light speed travel back in WWII, we would have used them by now during one of our wars. The fact that we havn't makes me skeptical that humans own these, to own something for that long and not use it is not typical of our government, especially considering that light speed technology and cloaking would mean we never lose wars again.


    The big question: If humans have this technology, than we must have had it for a long time since we've been seing these UFO's for a while now. But if we had this kind of tech in the 50's why has it yet to be spotted on the battlefield? Why aren't our generals crushing the enemy with it? I just don't think humans could have this kind of power without ever using it during a war.

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    • tom502
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      • Feb 2009
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      I just watched all 8 vids of the Dan Akroyd UFO show. It was very good, apart form showing a lot of the Meier UFO photos, which I believe are fakes. Still, it was very interesting, and factual.

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      • sgreger1
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        • Mar 2009
        • 9451

        Originally posted by tom502 View Post
        I just watched all 8 vids of the Dan Akroyd UFO show. It was very good, apart form showing a lot of the Meier UFO photos, which I believe are fakes. Still, it was very interesting, and factual.

        Hey man, do me a favor and pull up youtube and searchf or: "Clear photos of UFO taken by Antonio Urzi with a camera connected to a telescope, italia"

        Watch the first video. They have a damn clear picture taken by this guy, and a corroborating picture taken a few cities down of the same craft, both pictures were analyzed and are supposedly not manipulated, at least to the extent that one can tell nowadays. The picture to me is very clear if it's real, which I don't know that it is, but having 2 pictures of the same thing flying over 2 adjacent cities coupled with many eye witnesses seems to sound real. Anyways, look at the picture, what od you think? That's got to be one of the clearest pictures I think I have seen yet.


        Also, what is your take on this new "tiny alien body found in russian snow" sensation that is all over ATS and elsewhere. It looks entirely fake but it's getting a lot of attention, have you seen the video yet? What do you think?

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        • tom502
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          • Feb 2009
          • 8985

          sgreg, I just now see your post, I'll respond later I'm going to the grocery now.

          But see this amazing vid, watch it all:

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          • sgreger1
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            • Mar 2009
            • 9451

            Originally posted by tom502 View Post
            sgreg, I just now see your post, I'll respond later I'm going to the grocery now.

            But see this amazing vid, watch it all:

            Tom that is the most rediculous video ever man, the narration anyways. The pictures are amazing though, the only thing the moon has going for it in the conspiracy department is that there seemt o be a lot of right angles and square structures in various places, which is something I imagine doesn't form naturally. At least on earth we don't usually see that but I don't know enough about the moon to make an educated statement.



            As for the chick narrating this video, she is spewing complete disinformation. So aliens came here but then their "plasma" reactor died and they got stuck by the earths gravity, then they used molten lava volcanos to cover the thing in rock? Wtf? And tell me why she is claiming that the whole thing is powered by a single nuclear reactor that sits atop the surface of the moon glowing a "strange blue color". They have 1 nuclear reactor powering a planet-sized spaceship, yet they have "plasma" drives? Seems kind of low tech to use something that we just discovered (nuclear energy) when they would clearly have to be much more advanced than that to have plasma drives.


            She talks in difinitive statements, like "This is the nuclear reactor that powers the spaceship (moon)". How would she know? Even if you had a hi-def color image taken right at the doorstep, how would you know it was a nuclear reactor and not of some other variety? She is just taking random internet rumors and stating them as facts and that is false. Everyone does that from time to time but damn, this chick is just making random statements.


            She doesn't even try to research. For example, flashes on the moon do not mean aliens are mining on it, it means that meteor showers cause gas explosions. Scientists were baffled by this for a while but now claim to know. I take anything they say about space highly skeptical since I am convinced Nasa is hiding something, but I don't see any evidence for it being hollow, in fact all of the evidence points in the other direction.

            Earth has a magnetic field because of our core. Per http://www-spof.gsfc.nasa.gov/stargaze/Smoon2.htm we see one theory on why the moon rocks are magnetized "Molten rock can become permanently magnetized if it solidifies in the presence of an external magnetic field, suggesting that in some ancient era the Moon, like Earth now, had a molten metallic core in which electric currents generated a magnetic field. So Tom, how is it hollow, yet also has a molten metallic core generating en magnetic field (in the past that is)?



            I just see a lot of evidence for the moon being just what it looks like, another big rock orbiting a bigger rock. If I had to pick a planet that was made by aliens, purely based on visual speculation alone, it would be Iapetus. Look at this ****ing thing, how on earth did a giant wall form perfectly around the equator? And how is half of the planet one material (regular rock like our moon) and the other looks like exposed metal or some shit like a damaged death star. Look at this shit:









            It's the death star! lol. Relaly though they havn't figured out where the ridge came from yet, they will eventually but this moon has a lot of weirdness to it, scientists report that half the moon has a surface of organic material and the other is made out of something else but I forget. it just seems that two moons were split and then fused together lol.

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            • sgreger1
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              • Mar 2009
              • 9451

              Check this one out:

              http://youtu.be/rY2FFEufsuY



              Tom, This is the reason why I believe in aliens. I dare anyone to watch this video and not think something odd is going on, please watch it in it's entirety.

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              • tom502
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                • Feb 2009
                • 8985

                sgreg- yes, that's a great vid, I'm getting ready to watch part 2 now.
                It's so obvious that there are "things" out there. Often the same shape. Sometimes they seem "nuts and bolts", while others are like translucent, maybe organic, or interdimensional craft/beings, etc.

                I do believe the moon landing footage is faked, and while I do lean heavily on us never going there, I am open to the other theory, which makes a lot of sense to me too, and seems to have some backing, is that they did go, but what they saw and encountered was beyond what normal humans could expect, so the footage was a fake sanitized simple moon landing mission, with nothing to see beyond what we have been told.

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                • tom502
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                  • Feb 2009
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                  I just found this video set on Youtube and this is very interesting....
                  The more I see stuff like this, I think we have gone to the moon, and the moon is filled with little aliens.

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                  • sgreger1
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                    • Mar 2009
                    • 9451

                    Originally posted by tom502 View Post
                    I just found this video set on Youtube and this is very interesting....
                    The more I see stuff like this, I think we have gone to the moon, and the moon is filled with little aliens.

                    Dude Tom, this video is amazing! Not all of it, but it clearly shows some ind of living animal hanging around the astronauts. Can any rational person look nat this and tell me what you think some of those are? At one point the astronaut picks one of these mouse/frog looking things up by the tail and drops it, then the thing scurries away. Then in another it jumps and then scurries on the floor. There is clearly something living and organic moving around, in one scene there's some kind of animal ****ing with the antennae by shaking it.

                    I don't know what that is man, I don't know. I am convinced now that there is life of some sort living in near proximity to us, something that seems to be able to live in space, which isn't that surprising really. You would never be able to see a frog sized animal from earth so astronomers would never be able to catch it. I don't know what the hell those things are though, they can't move in space but they walk around the shuttle, wtf could that be?



                    Edit: Thi can't be real, but how do they fake footage of astronauts walking on the moon? Dude look at 11:00 or somewhere thereabout, a snake is climbing up the lunar modules landing gear and is clearly a snake of some sort, that is scary as shit. Look at the one with the astronauts ****ing with some kind of animal on the lunar surface, wtf is that? Tom, how authentic is this video, and I know that's asking a lot, but this all looks very real and is stuff I have never seen before. If this is real than I don't know wtf to think, there is animals living there or something, small ones.

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                    • sgreger1
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                      • Mar 2009
                      • 9451

                      Leaked Pre-broadcast footage from the Ohare airport incident that shut down an airport and then shot straight into space, punching a giant hole in the clouds, something american aircraft don't do.

                      http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...5546832717747#

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                      • tom502
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                        • Feb 2009
                        • 8985

                        sgreg- the moon aliens vid, it seems real footage to me, but I know what you know about it. I just found it on youtube.

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                        • tom502
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                          • truthwolf1
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                            • Oct 2008
                            • 2696

                            Good stuff.
                            Never saw that Ohare clip or the crisper images of the orb from that French guy.
                            The moon base deal I have heard a lot about and it is covered in the Disclosure project which I think is one of the best pieces on this topic.
                            It is all just making my head spin with all the information coming out. Back engineered seems the most possible because of the earlier witness testimony from Roswell etc.. unless that long ago humanity already had created the material that most said was not from this earth.

                            I think that was a snake in the Moon video because it was filmed on earth in the desert.

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                            • truthwolf1
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                              • Oct 2008
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                              I Know What I Saw (2011) - UFO Documentary

                              http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/...cumentary.html

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                              • sgreger1
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                                • Mar 2009
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                                Originally posted by tom502 View Post
                                Tom. I am blown away. That is the single best UFO related video clip I have ever seen.



                                Let me ask all who are following this a question: If this is true, than why aren't these things attacking us? We have shot down at least one of their ship and been hostile to them every time we've had a chance. Yet with their clearly superior technology they never attack us or anything. Why?


                                The theory is that a UFO was recovered in the 50's, the gov gave it to defense contractors and said "figure out how it works, you keep the patents and make money off the little shit, but we get first dibs on the good shit". Defense contractors, in return, got to patent some of the tech and make money off it. Eventually the corporations decided to cut the government out of the loop and pretty much figured that they are the one with the UFO and the ability to back-engineer it, plus they now had endless money to finance their agenda, so why give a **** what the gov wants? Eisenhower realized this was getting out of control (and that he had been cut out of the loop) and on his way out he made his famous "Beware the military industrial complex" speech that you hear quoted everywhere.

                                So allegedly, by this theory, it's now 60 years in the future and a small group of uber-wealthy individuals are the only ones with access to this technology. Our government has some but apparently the NWO/group of rich guys keeps all the good stuff and with their endless money they were able to pretty much take over government anyways, so now it is officially fascism and the industry giants control everything including our gov now, and on top of that they have better tech than anyone else and an endless budget. So yah by that theory we are pretty much ****ed.


                                But, where the **** are the "aliens" in this whole thing? As in, why aren't they stopping these people? Think about it, they never fight back, they don't even have externally mounted weapons or anything, and they only mess with our aircraft if they get too close, but then leave them alone once they turn to fly away. Maybe they are the worst kind of alien, maybe they are... PACIFISTS!

                                Really though, what if whatever is controlling these UFO's doesn't understand warfare, what if they had no competition and no quarreling amongst their own group, perhaps they didn't plan for a fight when they came here because it's not common where they came from? If so than they are ****ed and they should run away now.

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