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  • Jimbob_Rebel
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    • Jun 2010
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    The Breakup of the United States

    The Breakup of the United States
    by Michael S. Rozeff

    As the dissatisfactions of Americans with their national government grow, so does the likelihood of the breakup of the United States. I believe that most Americans can improve their well-being by ending the national government, that is, ending the Union. I believe that this goal should shape politics if politics is to do much good.

    I don’t think Americans are going to be the first people in the modern era to initiate a large-scale anarchy. But Americans might conceivably move back to a federal form of government something like that under the Articles of Confederation. If so, the problem is how to proceed. Many Americans feel (and are) trapped and thwarted by government power.

    I see two paths. Americans can do this either acting as individuals formed into a body politic of 300 million Americans or as 50 body politics organized by state. I think action by state has a better chance of success.

    To act as one body, Americans would have to alter their Constitution. The divisions among Americans make this highly unlikely. Even if it were pursued, the results would be highly uncertain.

    I like to think of federal programs being made optional at either the state or the personal level, but that means ending the Constitution or radically amending it. This takes me back to the other path of change: the States. This path looks more viable.

    We the People created the Constitution through state legislatures. That is a quasi-legal path to undoing the Constitution and thus breaking up the United States. This begins a process by which Americans take back their own government. I say "begins" because most states are also candidates for restructuring. Many local governments are also out of control.

    I don’t think Americans can improve their lot by participating in national politics under the current rules of the national game. I think they have to change the rules. They have to end the Union and get out from under the existing Constitution, which is now entirely controlled and interpreted by the national government.

    Since there is no consensus for going back to the original Constitution and since it would have to be rewritten and renegotiated, which is a process of uncertain outcome and which is impractical anyway, this leaves one viable path: ending the Union and ending this Constitution.

    Rather than thinking in terms of national politics, which at best can only produce marginal changes and which plays into the hands of the national powers-that-be, it would be far smarter to have no national or federal government at all. Although this involves significant political restructuring, We the People and the States can always retain or exercise options to form federated organizations for specific and limited purposes if we so desire.

    But by what means can Americans undo the Union?

    A viable means is the withdrawal of consent by Vermonters or Texans or Alaskans or Arizonans or Californians or the citizens of any state to the U.S. government. People gain leverage and power against the national Leviathan by acting as citizens of their respective states. They need to act through their state legislatures, not as citizens of the United States. In the old days of whaling, the method of bringing down the whale was by several crews working together in several boats. It was not by individual whalers rowing around by themselves and confronting Leviathan on their own.

    The states entered the Union. Secession once before almost ended the Union. The states are the political entities by which the Union and its burdens and injustices can be ended.

    Action through one or more states is one of the few and maybe the only viable political means by which the Union can be broken up.

    Contrast this with a national tax revolt, something that I believe is not a viable means of achieving a significant and lasting change in our politics. A tax revolt movement that seeks redress at the national level will not cause the U.S. to break up. That is the politics of accommodation and adjustment. It doesn’t challenge Congress itself. It doesn’t challenge the United States. It doesn’t challenge the Constitution. It leaves the power structure intact. As soon as such a movement is tossed a few crumbs, it loses its momentum. The national government divides it and conquers it. The national government lives on. It can regain its dominance over time by any number of means, such as by invoking some imaginary emergency.

    A tax revolt that works from and through the state legislatures directly undermines the Union. It directly challenges the power of Congress to tax. That’s a far stronger political platform for restructuring the United States.

    Outright secession is one political measure in a spectrum of possible actions by which one or more states stand up to the U.S. government. Nullification is another. Withdrawal from the banking system is another. A separate payments system at the state level is a fourth. Refusal to obey any of hundreds of U.S. directives is a fifth. The formation of alliances among states is another.

    In fact, there are so many possible ways by which one or more states stand up to the Union that, given enough time and the right conditions, a breakup is all but assured. The same cannot be said of any movement that seeks to work change by confronting Americans as one large group with their national government.

    All that has to happen at present is a spark lit by one or more States and the Union will go up in smoke. The Empire will fall. The tinder is very dry right now. One bolt of lightning will set the U.S. ablaze.

    The breakup can start small. Momentum will do the rest. There will be a bandwagon effect. The accumulated dissatisfactions with the monumental corruption, power-mongering, waste, and totalitarian nature of the United States government will seek and find channels of political relief.

    The number of potential actions that can set off a chain reaction is very large. Once one or more of the States throw down the gauntlet, the downfall of the U.S. will be sparked.

    This will come through the financial markets. The value of the United States paper currency depends critically on the taxing power of the United States. Anything that undermines U.S. tax collections undermines the U.S. dollar.

    *cont.*

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/rozeff/rozeff328.html
  • c.nash
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    • May 2010
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    #2
    spark notes? :P

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    • Jimbob_Rebel
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      • Jun 2010
      • 169

      #3
      *cont.*

      To bring down the U.S. government, all it may take is for one state to declare that its citizens need no longer pay taxes to the U.S. government. No matter what the national government does next and no matter what complex sequence of political tit for tat ensues, the uncertainty will balloon.

      The financial markets will do the rest. A flight from the U.S. dollar will set in. Flight from the dollar will torpedo and sink the national government.

      The Chinese and other foreign lenders will be very unhappy about their investments. So will anyone who is a creditor of the U.S.

      Financial market prices at present are not factoring in even a small chance of this happening. Lenders to Uncle Sam act as if everything is hunky-dory. U.S. government bonds even look attractive to those who believe further and deeper depression is imminent.

      No break up is visible in the short run. This seems to confirm such thinking. But boiling beneath the surface is a rising stream of heated discontent. Major political change is far more likely than it may seem to superficial observation.

      Greek bond prices fell very sharply when the government went into crisis. They only recovered when the rest of Euroland decided to bail out the Greek government and bondholders.

      There is no external bank or government that can or will extend credit to the U.S. to save the dollar once the perception spreads that its tax-collecting power is permanently impaired.

      The Federal Reserve can’t save the dollar or the U.S. government by extending credit. The markets will see right through that. In a politically fragile situation where the tax-collecting power of the national government has sunk, the Fed is powerless to save the national government.

      Once enough people in a given state gain the conviction that they will be far better off by shutting off the flow of their incomes to Washington, then they will get their legislature to stand up to Washington’s dictates. This will encourage citizens of other states who are in a similar situation.

      There does not have to be a shot heard round the world as on April 19, 1775. A Declaration of Tax Independence will take its place.

      Even if such a process of one state standing up against Uncle Sam fails, even if it elicits responses from the national government that thwart immediate success, experience will be gained. The national government is bound to show its true oppressive colors in such an episode. The game changes. A game-changing event or series of events is what is needed.

      The government of the United States markets itself as the nation’s defender. It advertises that it provides security nationwide for We the People. It claims that it provides military security, economic security, and social security.

      These are all false claims. More and more Americans recognize these claims as false. More and more Americans recognize that the United States government has reduced their security in all its many forms.

      The United States government has succeeded in entangling Americans in an endless succession of foreign wars. It has succeeded in retarding and even reversing standards of living. It has succeeded in raising medical care costs and reducing the quality of medical care. It has perpetuated a Ponzi scheme of social security that is doomed to fail. The United States government is responsible for reducing American freedoms, for spying on Americans, for searching them, and for turning travel into a nightmare.

      More and more Americans realize that promises of security do not create security. More and more Americans realize that the United States government creates insecurity and disorder.

      The United States government does not deserve the tax dollars it collects. This is the fundamental bread-and-butter reason for ending the Union. The Constitution allows massive tax collections for purposes enunciated by Washington. There is no way to stop this process, which is killing the country, except by undoing the political foundation by which it is enforced.

      The stream of tax dollars flowing to Washington can be turned off by the action of one or more state legislatures who act on behalf of their citizens. When that source of financing is halted, the United States government will be well on its way to breakup. This is the great gift that we should bestow on ourselves and future Americans.

      Americans will remain. America will remain. The nation will remain. The People will remain. The country will remain. The United States government is none of these things. It will go. With that burden lifted from our shoulders, we can once again make our way to better lives. We can renew a process of liberation and liberty that has been frustrated.





      July 26, 2010

      Michael S. Rozeff [send him mail] is a retired Professor of Finance living in East Amherst, New York. He is the author of the free e-book Essays on American Empire.

      Copyright © 2010 by LewRockwell.com. Permission to reprint in whole or in part is gladly granted, provided full credit is given.

      http://www.lewrockwell.com/rozeff/rozeff328.html

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      • sgreger1
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        • Mar 2009
        • 9451

        #4
        I agree with the concept of more states rights + smaller more focused federal government, but here are some problems I have with this guys theory:

        1. What exactly does he want, to break up the union entirely and have all 50 states operate independently as their own nations, absent of any type of union between them? I could see some major problems with this.

        2. The federal government was established to represent the states more so than govern them in my understanding. Their chief responsibilities were things such as maintaining a standing army, foreign relations, and critical infrastructure such as roads and phone lines etc. Is this what he is proposing when he says "We the People and the States can always retain or exercise options to form federated organizations for specific and limited purposes if we so desire."? The problem is that this is how it started out, the states allowed the federal government to exist for specific purposes (like keeping the army fed, but otherwise told the feds to piss off in most cases) and yet it exhibited a tendency to grow itself into infinity, which is where we are at today, where the feds are the masters of the states. What is to say this wouldn't just happen again?

        3. If we repealed the constitution and segregated ourselves by state, on what principles would we all operate on? Without a chief governing document such as the constitution, there is no common code bonding the 50 territories. This could lead to chaos and in some instances it may even lead to 50 rogue countries who all border each other = bad.

        4. As I recall, only some states even still reserve their right to secede, am I right or is that an error on my part? Either way, the entire southern part of the nation tried succession before and look how that turned out. We had civil war and the succeeding states were crushed when the north convinced our trading/banking partners (Europe) to stop doing business with us to choke us out economically. Especially in this new age of everyone operating on bailouts, how could the states even afford to stay afloat if they cut all ties with the feds?

        5. "A tax revolt that works from and through the state legislatures directly undermines the Union. It directly challenges the power of Congress to tax."
        I'm pretty sure the constitution made it very clear that congress had the power to levy taxes on the citizens. On what basis could a theoretical "tax revolt" movement make the claim that they don't owe anyone taxes?







        Mainly my thing is money. If we somehow (and its unlikely) dismantled the feds and left the union, our currency would collapse overnight. Many states, such as mine (CA), rely heavily on commerce with other states/countries to stay afloat. If we didn't sell all the agriculture products we do or sell all the movies we do, the whole place would collapse to civil unrest in an instant.

        The thing is that if we broke up the main governing body, it would turn to anarchy. As much as I hate the feds, I am not sure just lighting our entire economy and legal structure on fire is the best idea.

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        • shikitohno
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          • Jul 2009
          • 1156

          #5
          I don't see a shot for change in some sort of peaceful revolution. Those in power and their rich cronies have too much money invested in the situation on the ground remaining as it is now, to allow it to be destroyed without a fight. I also don't think that the time is right just now for a revolt of any sort here. If, as I keep hearing, the economy takes a dive again and it becomes something that will take years to a decade or so to recover from, I think you'd have a better time instigating revolution then. You let the economy be awful for a couple years or more, and you will enjoy much wider support for such actions, as people will have less faith in the government, bleaker outlook for the future, be more desperate to improve their lives, and most importantly, you will have a much larger swath of individuals who have nothing to gain from letting things work out, especially those who are unemployed for the long term. I plan on stocking up on a couple of rifles and a fair amount of ammo over the next couple of years, but I think I'd be more likely to use it in a counter-revolutionary force than in any coming revolution. I'd love to see the US government taken out, and have a total reboot, but the thing about revolutions is they tend to either be astoundingly awesome, or absolutely horrible and terrifying. For the good, see the American revolution. For the bad, see the Cuban, Algerian, Cultural, Soviet, and Khmer Rouge's revolutions, for just a few examples. They also have this really bad tendency of being all about democracy until they actually gain power. The Algerian revolution was supposed to end with national, democratic elections, but the Revolutionary Council maintained power for ages after the revolution ended.

          I wouldn't flat out dismiss the possibility of me having an active role in one, but it would have to be quite exceptional for me to do it. And I think the time for peaceful revolt is long past. The sides are too deeply entrenched for a revolt to end without significant bloodshed and loss for both sides.

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          • Jimbob_Rebel
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            • Jun 2010
            • 169

            #6
            Greger, you worry too much over the constitution..............it's been a dead letter for years. We have a better shot at freedom dealing with things on the local scale.

            shikitohno, you may be correct but I think we owe it to everyone involved to at least try non-violent methods of resistance before breaking out the sniper rifles. Much of eastern europe was "liberated" from communism and soviet domination utilizing non-violent means.

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            • Roo
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              • Jun 2008
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              #7
              Independent Republic of Cascadia; Oregon and Washington (and British Columbia now that I look into it). Idaho can piss off. With Microsoft, Amazon, Starbucks, Nike, Adidas USA, Costco, and Alaska Airlines and more all headquartered here, and with our agriculture and timber, we might have a chance at glory. There are actually people creating a movement for this: http://zapatopi.net/cascadia/

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              • sgreger1
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                • Mar 2009
                • 9451

                #8
                Originally posted by Jimbob_Rebel View Post
                Greger, you worry too much over the constitution..............it's been a dead letter for years. We have a better shot at freedom dealing with things on the local scale.

                shikitohno, you may be correct but I think we owe it to everyone involved to at least try non-violent methods of resistance before breaking out the sniper rifles. Much of eastern europe was "liberated" from communism and soviet domination utilizing non-violent means.

                Oh I realize it's been dead for years. I didn't mean we need to keep our constitution, I just think that it would be difficult to govern 50 states without some kind of common set of rules between us. There would have to be some kind of unifying document that states a common code of conduct or set of rules for it to work. Otherwise we would have 50 states all acting as soverign nations, absent of any union between them, which would lead to very bad things in my opinion. Having 50 different sets of commerce rules would make trade difficult, and I could easily picture how quickly landwars between states would break out.

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                • shikitohno
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                  • Jul 2009
                  • 1156

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jimbob_Rebel View Post
                  Greger, you worry too much over the constitution..............it's been a dead letter for years. We have a better shot at freedom dealing with things on the local scale.

                  shikitohno, you may be correct but I think we owe it to everyone involved to at least try non-violent methods of resistance before breaking out the sniper rifles. Much of eastern europe was "liberated" from communism and soviet domination utilizing non-violent means.
                  True, many of them were. I made my statement considering the key differences in the situations, though. The Soviet Union saw the better part of the influential and wealthy concentrated in Russia, particularly Moscow. Each satellite state had at best a handful of such people concentrated more or less in their respective capital cities. It was not as easy to affect instantaneous responses to changes on the ground in policy because information could take quite a bit longer to get back to the guys calling the shots, along with the fact that the Politburo had to deal with a bloc stretching from Eastern/Central Asia all the way to the middle of Europe. At its fall in 1991, the US was about 43.8% the size of the USSR, and the USSR's population at the time needed to grow only 5.7% to equal what ours is currently, but was spread out over more than twice the area. The fall of the Soviet Union was inevitable even without the need for revolution for the same reason the British and Roman Empires fell; they hand grown too large in size and population while hardly spreading any of the wealth or material benefits and leaving power and riches concentrated in too small an area respective to their size, and offering little chance of advancement.

                  The US is large, but not as large. We are more populous, but our wealth and power is more evenly spread across our nation. True, the middle class is vanishing and the gap between the rich and the poor ever widening. However, all across the country you have pockets of wealth and power, From NY to DC to Atlanta and Chicago, over to Seattle and Southern California. These centres are not operating in relative isolation of each other, and have far more resources available to them than the other 90% of the population. They work closely to increase their wealth and power as the rich and wealthy have done forever. And now, with instantaneous communication, it's even easier for them. And all those stop light cameras and other surveillance cameras in public places will only aid them if they decide to put down a revolt. So, while I'd like to see a peaceful movement create the changes we need, I'll let others test the waters first. I don't think it's all that viable, and for the time being, I'm going to save up my money so I can get a Romak III, stock up on 7.62x54mmR ammo and practice my long distance shooting skills to hone them so I'm ready if it comes to it.

                  On a related note, can anyone recommend a decent assault rifle that won't cost me an arm and a leg? The Romak III (or a Mosin Nagant, if I can find one to my liking in decent shape) make fairly good sniper rifles, but just in case I find myself rushed by an infantry unit sent to put down the revolt, I'd like to have something that holds more than 10 rounds in the magazine. Particularly nice would be something with the ease of maintenance of an AK47, but without being a crap weapon as the AK is, if such a rifle does indeed exist.

                  /goes back to being paranoid.

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                  • krahv

                    #10
                    Actually there werent any rich in soviet union. Any entrepeneur was practically equal to a murderer and was sent to jail. No business was allowed. Altough there were people who were better off and had benefits, like having a licence to buy a car etc. Everything was owned by the gov. and everyone was supposed to be equal.

                    Though there were blood shed, like people run over by the tanks and shot.
                    But one of famoused was the baltic chain where people held their hands through baltics over hundreds of km

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                    • Joe234
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                      • Apr 2010
                      • 1948

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jimbob_Rebel
                      *cont.*

                      To bring down the U.S. government, all it may take is for one state to declare that its citizens need no longer pay taxes to the U.S. government. No matter what the national government does next and no matter what complex sequence of political tit for tat ensues, the uncertainty will balloon.

                      l

                      They'd be blown out of the water. We fought a civil war over that.
                      What the National Government would do next is invade the state
                      with Federal troops. Are you advocating sedition? The penalty for
                      treason is execution as defined in the Constitution.

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                      • Joe234
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                        • Apr 2010
                        • 1948

                        #12
                        Originally posted by shikitohno View Post

                        On a related note, can anyone recommend a decent assault rifle that won't cost me an arm and a leg? The Romak III (or a Mosin Nagant, if I can find one to my liking in decent shape) make fairly good sniper rifles, but just in case I find myself rushed by an infantry unit sent to put down the revolt, I'd like to have something that holds more than 10 rounds in the magazine. Particularly nice would be something with the ease of maintenance of an AK47, but without being a crap weapon as the AK is, if such a rifle does indeed exist.

                        /goes back to being paranoid.
                        They don't work well against the drones that have their sites on you.
                        Not to mention laser guided missiles and tanks.

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                        • Roo
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                          • Jun 2008
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                          #13
                          Shikitohno: check out the Ruger Mini-14. Very small caliber, so it's not going to blow anyone's head off, but it's design is an anti-human semi-auto assault rifle, plain and simple. They are fun as hell to shoot. If you think the Kalishnikov is crappy, you probably wouldn't want to consider the Chinese Mac-90 as a fully automatic. But don't trust me, I live in Seattle and don't own property in the country, nor do I own any guns, so I'm sure others here could offer some better advice. But personally, I'm in love with this particular assault rifle:



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                          Edit: I was hittin' clay pigeons propped up in trees at 100 yards with this thing no problem with a scope on the 4th of July. It was fun.

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                          • Bigblue1
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                            • Dec 2008
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                            #14
                            bump

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                            • KCOLLINS18
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                              • May 2010
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                              #15
                              I purchase this AR-15 the first of the month, this gun is amazing to shoot. I'll be ready if something went down!
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