Cancer cells feed on fructose, study finds

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  • snusgetter
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    • May 2010
    • 10903

    #16
    Originally posted by tom502 View Post
    I always drink diet sodas, and they don't have this in them.
    Diet sodas certainly don't have HFCS, nor sugar. But the chemical
    sweeteners used may be more objectionable to some for a variety
    of reasons I don't care to get into here.

    Diabetics, though, may not have much choice in their selections of
    discretionary beverages. It may be worth it to check out IZZE since
    it is naturally sweet with NO refined sugar. There may be an
    alternative choice after all.

    In any event, moderation is the key.

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    • deadohsky
      Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 625

      #17
      Originally posted by snusgetter View Post
      Diet sodas certainly don't have HFCS, nor sugar. But the chemical
      sweeteners used may be more objectionable to some for a variety
      of reasons I don't care to get into here...

      ...In any event, moderation is the key.
      +1

      If i had health issuses, i'd personally just drink water or unsweetened tea as lx suggested. I have already done that because soda (regular and diet) and everything else processed and full of chemicals i was eating/ drinking made me feel like crap.

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      • snusgetter
        Member
        • May 2010
        • 10903

        #18
        Originally posted by deadohsky View Post
        +1
        If i had health issuses, i'd personally just drink water or unsweetened tea as lx suggested. I have already done that because soda (regular and diet) and everything else processed and full of chemicals i was eating/ drinking made me feel like crap.
        That's why I switched off Coke, Pepsi, etc., a long time ago. The addictiveness of MOXIE was/is my last stumbling block --- but once my last 5 cases are gone, that's it with the HFCS MOXIE!!

        I've already mentioned IZZE -- my best discovery to date! I never could eat grapefruit but their Sparkling Grapefruit is now my favorite, followed by Sparkling Clementine.

        "Izze (pronounced IH-zee) is the brand name of a line of carbonated juice drinks produced by the IZZE Beverage Company in Boulder, Colorado, which is owned by PepsiCo. The drinks consist of 70% fruit juice from concentrate, and seltzer water. Izze is an all-natural, no-preservatives-added fruit soda." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izze

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        • Bigblue1
          Banned Users
          • Dec 2008
          • 3923

          #19
          too bad we have this oppressive embargo with Cuba for the sole purpose of falsely inflating the price of cane sugar in this country. So the corn lobby can keep pushing their shit on us. Faster cheeper is not always better.........

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          • Roo
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            • Jun 2008
            • 3446

            #20
            Can you guys get Mexican Coke (cola) in your cities? It's made with cane sugar and comes in a sweet bottle. I don't drink soda, but I do enjoy a coke from time to time. The Mexi is where it's at. I've been seeing it in more places, even grocery stores.

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            • Bigblue1
              Banned Users
              • Dec 2008
              • 3923

              #21
              yeah we can get it, even saw it by the case at the Sam's club.

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              • snusgetter
                Member
                • May 2010
                • 10903

                #22
                Originally posted by Roo View Post
                Can you guys get Mexican Coke (cola) in your cities? It's made with cane sugar and comes in a sweet bottle. I don't drink soda, but I do enjoy a coke from time to time. The Mexi is where it's at. I've been seeing it in more places, even grocery stores.
                I remember ordering a case from my corner package store
                (in Massachusetts) last year, but it was only available during
                a Jewish celebration; my timing was right. And it did not have
                the cloying sweetest of the commercial product.

                Alas, at this time I'll stick with IZZE!!

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                • Jwalker
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                  • May 2010
                  • 1067

                  #23
                  I'll state the obvious this seems like a politically motivated study. HFCS is in everything because it's way cheap and tastes good, there's usually varieties of things without it or will be if people demand them like pepsi throwback and stuff. I think cane sugar tastes pretty much the same.

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                  • Bigblue1
                    Banned Users
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 3923

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Jwalker View Post
                    I'll state the obvious this seems like a politically motivated study. HFCS is in everything because it's way cheap and tastes good, there's usually varieties of things without it or will be if people demand them like pepsi throwback and stuff. I think cane sugar tastes pretty much the same.
                    Did you know it has mercury in it too. Bonus brain melting capabilities..... Great! HFCS Mercury Washington Post

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                    • rollinred
                      Banned Users
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 115

                      #25
                      They had this in Michigan too.

                      It was the old school Mountain Dew with real sugar, not the HFCS.

                      This throwback stuff was so much better than the modern mountain dew. It is not quite as sweet but the flavor is much better.

                      I drink Coke products almost exclusively but I may even switch to drinking half coke and half Mountain Dew if they bring it back permanently.

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                      • Randall
                        Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 753

                        #26
                        ADM is not going to be happy about this. Sure their PR and lobbyist are working overtime to discredit it.

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                        • bakerbarber
                          Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 1947

                          #27
                          This is a silly argument. Sucrose vs. HFCS is such an old debate.

                          Granulated sugar or "Sucrose" is not any better for you. HFCS is less expensive. Liquid sucrose is highly unstable and can cause serious contamination issues if excellent sanitation practices aren't upheld. HFCS doesn't have mercury in it. It used to be used in the process, but you'd find more in your tuna than anything with HFCS.

                          HFCS is also more functional and stable for many perishable products. It helps soda keep its color and is hygroscopic so it helps baked goods stay fresh and soft. It makes the maliard reaction more efficient and aids caramelization.

                          Sure it has different taste profiles and texture qualities. It's very few people who can genuinely tell the difference. A lot of hype is self fulfilling when people expect products made without HFCS to taste different. It's partially placebo effect.

                          The bottom line is this; there is not enough sucrose in the world to make all of our food out it, not even to make all the soda out of it. Pepsi would shit a jagged jalapeno brick if consumers demanded throwback Pepsi always be available at the same price as regular Pepsi because it would be at least three times the price to sweeten....... People would NOT pay the premium for products made with sucrose. It's a slippery slope. They want people to buy it as a novelty, but secretly pray it doesn't create consumer demand.

                          Mexican colas are made with HFCS now too. News Flash *NAFTA* changed that dynamic a long time ago. Some places haven't changed YET in Mexico. They will.

                          There is Government manipulation of the sugar markets however. They were the original lobbyists. There are quotas that are regularly updated to control prices, supply, and demand.

                          Rent "The Informant" if you'd like to learn more.

                          "real sugar" is an oxymoron like "jumbo shrimp" or "living dead". Granulated white sugar is a highly processed disaccharide. PERIOD. So is HFCS the proportions are slightly different. Ergo the "high" surname of some corn syrups. Glucose and Fructose are saccharides, so is lactose.

                          Strictnine and cyanide are both poisons. Both are "all natural" and can be labeled "organic" on the package. Let's argue about which is less deadly. That's what arguing about sugars is like.

                          There is proven research over the last 30+ years stating that the human bodily metabolizes and reacts the same to granulated sugar and HFCS.

                          There simply is not enough refining capacity in the country right now for cane or beets to satisfy demand. We either have to rebuild the infrastructure and restore the crop capacity, or stop being fat hungry bastards who are looking for a scapegoat to blame our obesity on. You can't have your cake and say Sara Lee tricked you into eating 37 pounds of it too.

                          I believe Ben Franklin said, "Everything in moderation." A wise man indeed.

                          Honey is even scarier, I would stick to local honey as my sweetener of choice. Some of the bulk honey distributors and sellers were recently thrown in prison for various reasons. I would avoid as much processed and refined food as possible. Whole grains and fruits and vegetables are the best food to eat with fresh clean meat.

                          Consumers want LOW PRICES and CONVENIENCE. The real problem is we a sedentary. How many Americans have treadmills covered in clothes and junk right now?

                          I am a baker actually, as some of you know. HFCS is no better or worse than other Sugar. It is, unequivocally, better than any artificial sweetener on Earth. Artificial sweeteners are more harmful than anything else you may over indulge in.

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                          • Frosted
                            Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 5798

                            #28
                            Hang on - fructose is fructose - it is found in most fruit. Fruit causes cancer?

                            Most research suggests otherwise - that eating fruit does help prevent cancer (Cancer Research UK).

                            I don't think it's as simple as this anyway - it's down to genes and how much crap you pile into your body - as well as your general state of health. Eventually somethings gonna give.

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                            • truthwolf1
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                              • Oct 2008
                              • 2696

                              #29
                              Read your labels and decide for yourself if you want close to everything you eat with this crap in it.
                              The American lifestyle is sedentary but we are being bombarded from all directions with chemicals, additives, hormones, modified foods and who knows what else. I have been to Eastern Europe many times and seems the more they get introduced to fast food/big corporate foods the fatter they get.

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