That's right, i'm bringing up global warming again...

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  • sgreger1
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    • Mar 2009
    • 9451

    #1

    That's right, i'm bringing up global warming again...

    This guys is a physicist who won the nobel peace prize. He is NOT a climatologist but I just mention his credentials since most people assume anyone not buying into global warming is scientifically illiterate or a flat-earther.

    And it's not that he doesn't believe global warming is happening, it's just that "who cares". His outlook in this article is exactly how I feel. The premis is basicaly that the earth deals with large time periods, it always corrects everything and in a few million years all the carbon in the air will be redistributed through some process as the earth regains its ballance. To just focus on C02 and blame a temperature increase over the last 160 years as PROOF that global warming is going to end us is kind of overlooking the bigger picture. Yes carbon emissions are a factor, but the real problem is human population pressure generally—overharvesting, habitat destruction, pesticide abuse, species invasion, and so forth. Slowing man-made extinctions in a meaningful way would require drastically reducing the world’s human population. That is unlikely to happen.

    So at the end of the day, even if we legislate a million global warming rules, the earth will not care about our governments actions or their legislation. There isn't much we can do, and any attempt is only holding off whateve rthe inevitable effects of this polllution will have by maybe 100 years.

    To quote a friend:

    "Even IF the alleged "man-made Global Warming" IS real...

    so what?

    by the time it has any effect we'll all be dead.

    do you think our great-grandfathers sat around fretting about how we would survive?

    the future generations will figure it out.

    and if not, fark them for not being smart enough to figure it out.

    I'll be in my grave."

    And that's the truth. It sounds bad but it's the truth. We have a good few hundred years left if we believe the worst case scenario estimates. We went from riding horses to flying to the moon in 60 years, I think we can figure this out in 300 years. At the end of the day it is about survival. If humans go extinct and we cause the 6th "great mass-extinction" due to our actions, than we are not fit to survive. Earth will wipe us from the planet, restore the balance, and in a few million years intelligence will develope in another species and start over. Such is the way the world turns.


    Full article:

    http://www.theamericanscholar.org/what-the-earth-knows/
  • snusgetter
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    • May 2010
    • 10903

    #2
    Originally posted by sgreger1 View Post
    That's right, i'm bringing up global warming again...
    What a misnomer...

    Why can't it just be called what it is: climate change.

    Oh, that's right, climate change doesn't sound as dastardly as global warming!

    (Can't get the peasants riled up as easily.)

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    • Langdell
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      • Jun 2010
      • 255

      #3
      Originally posted by sgreger1 View Post

      "Even IF the alleged "man-made Global Warming" IS real...

      so what?

      by the time it has any effect we'll all be dead.



      Full article:

      http://www.theamericanscholar.org/what-the-earth-knows/
      Wh . . . wh . . . what?!?!?! Has this guy been outside lately?! I just came from outside, and it's at least 30 degrees hotter than it was just 6 months ago!!!! At this rate, we'll be extinct by Christmas! The end is nigh!

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      • tom502
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        • Feb 2009
        • 8985

        #4
        What's the "novel prize"? Is he a fiction writer?

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        • truthwolf1
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          • Oct 2008
          • 2696

          #5
          Originally posted by Langdell View Post
          Wh . . . wh . . . what?!?!?! Has this guy been outside lately?! I just came from outside, and it's at least 30 degrees hotter than it was just 6 months ago!!!! At this rate, we'll be extinct by Christmas! The end is nigh!
          Then move.

          I bet in six months it will be the coldest winter on record up here.

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          • snusgetter
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            • May 2010
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            #6
            Originally posted by tom502 View Post
            What's the "novel prize"? Is he a fiction writer?
            Sometimes it sure seems that way with most of the experts that crawl out from under their glacial universes.

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            • snusgetter
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              • May 2010
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              #7
              Originally posted by truthwolf1 View Post
              Then move.

              I bet in six months it will be the coldest winter on record up here.
              As the World Turns...
              Sounds more like climate change than global warming!!


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              • Langdell
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                • Jun 2010
                • 255

                #8
                Originally posted by truthwolf1 View Post
                Then move.

                I bet in six months it will be the coldest winter on record up here.
                You're right. Sorry, I keep forgetting that global warming actually makes the globe colder. (At least according to Al Gore in the wintertime.)

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                • sgreger1
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                  • Mar 2009
                  • 9451

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Langdell View Post
                  Wh . . . wh . . . what?!?!?! Has this guy been outside lately?! I just came from outside, and it's at least 30 degrees hotter than it was just 6 months ago!!!! At this rate, we'll be extinct by Christmas! The end is nigh!
                  Last I checked, short term weather does not indicate a trend in long term climate patterns, or so I was told by the liberals earlier in the year when we had the worst winters ever and cities were shut down all across the east coast. Now it's hot, and for some reason THAT means something, but when it was super cold it didn't mean anything.


                  Im just saying, capping emissions won't do much of anything to help. The amount of trash we're creating and how we over-cultivate land and chop down forests will have a significantly larger impact in the short term, yet I hear so few governments spending billions to research this trend or try to stop it. (Protip: Because there is no profit in it)

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                  • sgreger1
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                    • Mar 2009
                    • 9451

                    #10
                    Originally posted by tom502 View Post
                    What's the "novel prize"? Is he a fiction writer?
                    Lol, spelling corrected. Meant "Nobel Peace Prize".

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                    • snusgetter
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                      • May 2010
                      • 10903

                      #11
                      Originally posted by sgreger1 View Post
                      ... (Protip: Because there is no profit in it)
                      You hit the nail right on the head!!

                      The World = Money and vice-versa.

                      Hallelujah ... Amen ... Fight the Gypsy Moths to the death!!

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                      • xrt
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                        • Jun 2010
                        • 374

                        #12
                        Autumn and Winter FTW



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                        • snusgetter
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                          • May 2010
                          • 10903

                          #13
                          Originally posted by xrt View Post
                          Autumn and Winter FTW



                          Any place special? Kinda looks like the NorthEast.

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                          • sgreger1
                            Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 9451

                            #14
                            Originally posted by snusgetter View Post
                            You hit the nail right on the head!!

                            The World = Money and vice-versa.

                            Hallelujah ... Amen ... Fight the Gypsy Moths to the death!!


                            Speaking of which, in the news today:

                            UN panel: New taxes needed for climate fund...

                            Carbon taxes, add-ons to international air fares and a levy on cross-border money movements are among ways being considered by a panel of the world's leading economists to raise a staggering $100 billion a year to help poor countries adapt to climate change and reduce emissions of carbon dioxidetrapping the sun's heat.

                            The goal is to spend $1 trillion a decade on fighting global warming by 2020. Lucky for us, the money will be so inflated by them that 1 trillion dollars will be what's needed to buy a loaf of bread.

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                            • truthwolf1
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                              • Oct 2008
                              • 2696

                              #15
                              Originally posted by snusgetter View Post
                              Any place special? Kinda looks like the NorthEast.
                              That's what it usually looks like a day before the Siberian blizzard comes.

                              I like all the seasons but that Fall to Winter weather change is a God given/Evolution depression.
                              Every year.

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