A sad day for science

[sgreger1]

That's obviously a forest of trees. And has giant lakes, with forests surrounding them.

Tom, you are looking at a black and white photo, sand dunes in the desert, especially dry sand with cracks looks the same as your pictures. It is not"clearly" trees. If you see the pictures in true color you would see that it is just landscape. Yes there are lakes, but no trees. I could take a picture that looked exactly like the one you posted here on earth, in a place where no vegetation or trees existed.


If mars were covered with treesm someone would be able to see it and take a picture. Ameature astronomers would have picked this up a long time ago.

[tom502]

Well, at least you admit there are lakes.

[sgreger1]

Well, at least you admit there are lakes.

I don't think there are any scientists who aren't aware of lakes on mars. Given they are frozen methane for the most part anyways. There are some water deposits (BIG ones) throughout different regions but none of it is liquid.

This was actually contradicted a few months ago (last year some time) when the rover appeared to have water droplets on it, leading to the theory that there may be some kind of active (liquid) water cycle happening on certain regions of mars.

An active water cycle would change a lot of what we believe about the area.


For me the only real evidence of "life" on mars is the methan deposits that keep replenishing themselves on a certain part of the planet. Though there are other ways it could have gotten there, the fact that it's wquantities are sustained would lead to the conclusion that there may be some mirobial life producing it and constantly replenishing the atmosphere with it (since methan will go away after a while unless it is constantly being produced somewhere on the ground).


I don't think there is any actual evidence for plants on mars, but I think that some form of life existing there is certainly not outside of the realm of possibility. We still really only know a small amount about the planet. Other than what we can make out from pictures and from the rover, we don't have much to go on.



One thing to contibute to your ongoing mars conspiracy theory is that they seem to purposely edit some of the colors in their pictures, and I don't mean the regular color correction for scientific study or clarity. It seems like they purposely color things red but often times make huge mistakes. I have some pictures ill post later that show it. But even that may have a decent and rational explanation behind it. I don't think theres any real reason to be hiding anything at this point, it's an otherwise dead planet, and even the dsicovery of microbial life would be pretty irrelevant.

[tom502]

It is liquid water. Lakes and rivers, and plush forests.

[Bigblue1]

[tom502]

Your pic doesn't show.

[WickedKitchen]

Maybe there's a Hollow Mars theory that's powering all those trees...Featons or something.

How the eff did this get to Mars anyhow???

I think Humans are one of the only animals that think weird like this. Many animals, even primates kill babies of the same species and we only assume we know the reason. I think we're pretty correct about most of them but it's a natural thing for them and I'm sure they at least know what they are doing while they're doing it. It's an accepted behavior in the Animal world. We are just animals really all be it with more cognitive skills.

I came to the realization a while back that we live in a very cruel world full of misfortune, tragedy, and sorrow. We strive to make it a perfect world, but that is unachievable, as it should be. For if we did succeed in achieving a perfect world, we would grow restless and probably destroy ourselves.

Occasionally you will find a sprinkle of hope, happiness, and satisfaction just long enough to numb yourself from our painful reality. It's just the nature of our existence, and one day we and everything around us will become dust condemned to this big rock. Or at least until some large object crashes into us sending us hurling and tumbling through space in a million different directions. So grab you a drink and some tobaccy!

Ain't that the truth.