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  • sgreger1
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    • Mar 2009
    • 9451

    #16
    Originally posted by Joe234 View Post
    Obama's numbers are still higher that Reagan and Clintion's were at this point in their term.

    Reagan brought a recovery to the recession Jimmy Carter created. His poll numbers then skyrocketed. Lets see if Obama can pull it off as well. (I doubt it though).


    @ Snussless:

    "Come on, do you think Obama, all by himself, has enough say about things like the Iraq War? Yes, him, all by himself. Just him. Doubtful.

    I think we are putting too much blame on one guy, when there are a lot more people responsible for the decision being made than just him. "



    No, it is not all Obama's fault. The President can only affect so much and give everything either a yes or no vote. He is the final word. The rest is all done by congress, which has been run by the democrats for nearly 4 years. All in all, they have systematicly failed to do anything but tank the economy.

    So no, Obama does not get all the blame. The other several hundred democrats in charge get their share as well. Obama continues to support the wars, and the democrats in congress voted to go to war back nearly 10 years ago and have voted to continue funding it ever since. Even when the decision was solely up to them, when they had complete majority control, they still funded it, supported it, and even funded/supported the other cool gifts we got in the post-911 world such as the patriot act.

    So please lets put blame where blame is due. Congress is the core of our country's government, and democrats have ran it since 07. It is now almost 2011. Time to own up to their mistakes and quit blaming everyone else.

    And no, I don't think Mccain would have been any better.

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    • Darwin
      Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 1372

      #17
      Obama does not merit the blame for the parlous state of the economy, as he has reminded us relentlessly, but his sole response has been to fling ever bigger trainloads of fiat cash at it in the hopes that a nuclear version of Keynesianism will get the job done. Since this hasn't worked very well he would like to throw many many more billions of bucks in the same direction. The Progressive enthusiasm for Keynesian stimulus spending borders on religious dogma with of course the patron saint of this approach being FDR. And it's always convenient to hold that despite a lack of recent success the only remedy is even more spending. Getting a touch tiresome.

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      • sgreger1
        Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 9451

        #18
        Originally posted by Joe234 View Post
        Obama's numbers are still higher that Reagan and Clintion's were at this point in their term.

        Oh, and nice selective number picking btw, since BOTH Bush's had a higher approval rating than Obama's. In fact, every other president in the last 100 years has had a higher approval rating, except Clinton and Reagan. Not exactly something I would call an accomplishment. Being the 3rd worst president and leading the LEAST ethical congress ever is really something to tell the grandkids about.

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        • raptor
          Member
          • Oct 2008
          • 753

          #19
          Who cares about poll statistics.

          This is going to be interesting. A lot of people don't like Obama from both sides of the political spectrum. He's bashed civil liberties, hasn't made a good exit strategy for either Iraq or Afghanistan, botched the oil spill crisis, failed to alleviate the medical insurance situation for the common worker, bent over backwards for the banks.

          Even though I really didn't like Bush Jr., I think I dislike Obama more. With Bush you knew what to expect; with Obama, it's as if he back-stabbed his centrist constituency. This won't fare well for his fellow party members, with the growing amount of ambiguous conservative discontent.

          I don't know how I should vote; I've lost all faith in any sort of proper representation as everything has become so politically divisive. I might vote red with the hope that the crazies take over and let America hit rock bottom.

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          • raptor
            Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 753

            #20
            Originally posted by sgreger1 View Post
            LEAST ethical congress ever
            In which way are you defining ethical? Certainly the Citizens United case screwed everything up, but I'd use corrupt rather than least ethical. Unless you were referring to something else.

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            • sgreger1
              Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 9451

              #21
              Originally posted by raptor View Post
              Who cares about poll statistics.

              This is going to be interesting. A lot of people don't like Obama from both sides of the political spectrum. He's bashed civil liberties, hasn't made a good exit strategy for either Iraq or Afghanistan, botched the oil spill crisis, failed to alleviate the medical insurance situation for the common worker, bent over backwards for the banks.

              Even though I really didn't like Bush Jr., I think I dislike Obama more. With Bush you knew what to expect; with Obama, it's as if he back-stabbed his centrist constituency. This won't fare well for his fellow party members, with the growing amount of ambiguous conservative discontent.

              I don't know how I should vote; I've lost all faith in any sort of proper representation as everything has become so politically divisive. I might vote red with the hope that the crazies take over and let America hit rock bottom.


              The real interesting part is going to be when the democrats realize that Obama is toxic to their careers and start throwing him under the bus. Presidents usually start out popular, then get progressively less popular as their terms play out. Congress is in it for the long run, and they will be quick to throw him under the bus pretty soon here. Just you wait.

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              • victoryredchevy
                Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 303

                #22
                I can't wait to watch the presidential debates in 2012. Talk about interesting. It will be to me, anyway.

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                • Curtisp
                  Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 189

                  #23
                  wish i could vote "none of the above"...

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                  • sgreger1
                    Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 9451

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Curtisp View Post
                    wish i could vote "none of the above"...
                    I'm telling you guys, we should start a campaign to just pencil in "Elmo" on the ballot. If we elect him it would be so freaking epic, and he'd do a better job! We'd have to get a little tiny teleprompter for the guy who operates the puppet but it would be well worth the cost.

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