International Burn-a-Quran Day

[sgreger1]

Then Scientology came along and showed them all just how well a religion could use merchandising!

Ken

These things all came about because his holy noodleyness willed it to be so. Without the FSM (meatballs be upon him), the world would not know these many religions which serve as a distraction from his hollyness and his many noodley appendages. He has created them, in his infinite wisdom, to try and make man stray from the one true (and delicious) God, the Flying Spaghetti Monster.


At least scientology turns a crazy profit. Most religions serve as a means of control, whereas scientology is just blatantly in it for the money. I can respect that more than other religions.

Lets start a snuson religion, we'll call it "The Cult of Fredrik". We can sell T-shirts and everything, and even be all hip and new-aged by holding congregations in a thread each sunday here on snuson. Correction: Congregation will be held during peak work hours on business days only, not on weekends which were invented for beer.

[raptor]

I would be careful with statements that could be construed as labeling Islam as an inferior religion.

The religion and its people, however, will see a lot of struggle in the future. Remember the Qur'an has never, ever been revised/reinterpreted in Arabic. That is why some of its teachings, such as jihad, are antiquated, yet extremists use them to promote their own political struggle. They abuse the name of Islam, and the vast vast majority of Muslims are against the extremists (and in many cases are powerless to combat them). Back in the 7th century, jihad was promoted against the pagan Arabs under the warrior prophet Mohammad and was necessary for the survival of Mohammad's teachings. It is harder to look up to Mohammad today, because his actions don't easily apply in the modern era (whereas Jesus' compassion can still be adhered to).

Christianity and its Bible has enjoyed many rewritings over the years, from the Vulgate to KJV and beyond. The Catholic Catechism itself is a living document which is modified as culture modernizes. Muslims don't have this, and need to rely on 7th century scripture. Islam is also very delocalized, with Muslims usually absorbing interpretations of individual Imams, which gives them nearly ultimate authority.

We don't need to create a resolution for non-secular states like Iran, they need to figure it out themselves.

As for Qur'an burning, those individuals are more than welcome to do that, but it is evident they fail to see the irony in how intertwined the three religions of the Book are. Yes, it will likely cause turmoil overseas. And I don't think Jesus would stand for a book burning, no matter whose book it is.

[raptor]

At least scientology turns a crazy profit. Most religions serve as a means of control, whereas scientology is just blatantly in it for the money. I can respect that more than other religions.

Respect greed and murder? A cult which in the 70s infiltrated our government?

They're lucky they had enough influence to convince the IRS in the early 90s to give them religion status.

[devilock76]

Lets start a snuson religion, we'll call it "The Cult of Fredrik". We can sell T-shirts and everything, and even be all hip and new-aged by holding congregations in a thread each sunday here on snuson. Correction: Congregation will be held during peak work hours on business days only, not on weekends which were invented for beer.

Then maybe we would not have to pay taxes on snus!!!

Ken

[sgreger1]

Respect greed and murder? A cult which in the 70s infiltrated our government?

They're lucky they had enough influence to convince the IRS in the early 90s to give them religion status.

Lol, and regular religion has never been guilty of greed or murder ? And other religions have never infiltrated the government? Rofl @ that.

I can't believe any of these places get tax privaledges. I declare that affording them non-profit status based on their being a religious institution is a violation of the constitution. Gov should have nothing to do with religion, be it promoting it, denying open and free practice of it regardles of faith, or helping them out financially by making thema non-profit.

If they want to run their soup kitchens or other charities, they can open a non-profit 501c-3 organization for that purpose, but a church should not be automatically afforded what essentially amounts to a subsidy by the government via tax exempt status just because they are a place of worship.

[sgreger1]

Furious protesters in Muslim nations believe that the few nuts who are going to burn Qurans represent all of American culture. Fortunately, we in the United States would never stigmatize an entire culture based on the actions of a radical few

[tom502]

I think it's nuts, and while I don't condone the actions of this preacher, he is showing what he believes to be true, if by his burning a few Qurans, Muslims are gonna go nuts(if they can go any more) and start killing people over it.

What gets me also, is certain people saying it will inflame nutso Muslims to violence, yet the media is whipping this story up all they can. This is a rinky small town church, but the evil media is balooning this hype for all they can. If anyone dies from it, it's the media's fault, and nutty 'slums, before it is this guy's.

[sgreger1]

What gets me also, is certain people saying it will inflame nutso Muslims to violence, yet the media is whipping this story up all they can. This is a rinky small town church, but the evil media is balooning this hype for all they can. If anyone dies from it, it's the media's fault, and nutty 'slums, before it is this guy's.

This is so true. This is some backwoods church with 50 people in the congregation. No one on the planet would have ever heard about this or cared if the media hadn't brought it to international attention, spinning it as though some rightwing group is out being racist against muslims.

If no one had given this nutjob coverage, than no one would have even known or cared. Now people just hear "christian church burns Korans", and they do that on purpose because that is the meme they are trying to create here, that anything right wing must be some religious extremist militia terrorist shit.

[snusgetter]

Pastor: Quran burning demo will happen

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Muslim group to distribute replacement Qurans in response to planned burning

By the CNN Wire Staff
September 9, 2010

(CNN) -- A major Islamic group will announce an initiative Thursday to distribute 200,000 Qurans to replace what it says are 200 copies that a Florida church plans to burn in a gesture that has sparked controversy worldwide.

The Rev. Terry Jones, pastor of Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, said he will go ahead with plans to burn Qurans on the anniversary of the September 11, 2001 attacks.

Jones' plan comes amid increased pressure and warnings that doing so could endanger U.S. troops and Americans worldwide.

On Wednesday, the Vatican joined a chorus of groups imploring the church not to burn Islam's holy book, saying it would be an "outrageous and grave gesture."

The president of the General Assembly also expressed concern about the planned Quran burning. Ali Abdussalam Treki said it will "lead to uncontrollable reactions" and spark tension worldwide.

Earlier this week, Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. military commander in Afghanistan, warned that the plan "could cause significant problems" for American troops overseas.

Despite the growing pressure, Jones has rejected the pleas, saying his message targets radical Islamists.

"The general needs to point his finger to radical Islam and tell them to shut up, tell them to stop, tell them that we will not bow our knees to them," Jones said on CNN's "AC360."

"We are burning the book," Jones said. "We are not killing someone. We are not murdering people."

In response, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a Muslim civil liberties and advocacy group, plans to hold a news conference in Washington on Thursday to address the issue. The group's "Learn, Don't Burn" initiative includes the distribution of of 200,000 Qurans and other activities planned for Friday and Saturday.

"This educational initiative is designed for those who seek a proactive and constructive response to the church's very un-American actions," said Nihad Awad, CAIR national executive director.

"The tiny group of extremists carrying out the book burnings clearly do not represent our society or its values and have been repudiated by all mainstream religious and political leaders."

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg is one of the few public officials who defended Jones' right to go ahead, even as he condemned the idea as "distasteful."

"I don't think he would like if somebody burned a book that in his religion he thinks is holy. ... But the First Amendment protects everybody, and you can't say that we are going to apply the First Amendment to only those cases where we are in agreement," Bloomberg said, citing the section of the Constitution that promises freedom of speech.

The planned action has drawn sharp criticism worldwide.

The Military Religious Freedom Foundation, which is dedicated to protecting U.S. troops from religious intolerance, has promised to buy one new Quran and donate it to the Afghan National Army for each one burned in Florida.

Petraeus has warned that the burning will endanger the lives of the 120,000 U.S. and NATO-led troops still battling al Qaeda and its allies in the Islamic fundamentalist Taliban movement.

[snusgetter]

How about burning Jones' book?

I think this is just a publicity stunt, but it could really blow up in his face. ...

WHAT A CYNIC!!


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[tom502]

I think the extremist Muslim reactions to this, and the US gov kowtowing to it, and the media hype machine, is, sadly, simply proving to this pastor that what he says is true. While Muslims are raping and killing people left and right, due to their extremist hateful intolerance of others, we are going nutso over a guy with a little church who simply wants to burn some books they believe is evil. There is a big and troubling contradition here, and a bias. Have we become so pro-terrorist, that we want their insanity to influence our expressions of freedom here? What next? Installment of sharia law? We should applaud this guys bravery, and champion his rights as an American citizen, not bow down and kiss the feet of Muslim killers. I'm not a Christian, and I don't agree with his plan, but I more so disagree with the media spin, and the bowing to the terrorists. The reaction this event is getting, is just making what he says true.

[LaZeR]

Free country. As long as he doesn't break no fire or-dances or whatnot, so be it. This is no different than building a ****ing mosque at ground zero. Pisses off some folk but if it's legal, it's legal. Eye for an eye. Build the offensive mosque = burn the stupid books. ///Thread

[RobsanX]

Books are for reading, not for burning.

[daruckis]

hahaha i would think this was awesome if it wasnt a christian minister. i think bible or quran burning is hilarious, but not if done by some other religious zealot. **** him.

[Premium Parrots]

now.......if they were to light their blunts from that fire it could be substanciated.