International Burn-a-Quran Day

[khalid]

Every single actor in this sorry tale; theologian, journalist, politician, protester, is a tool of some kind of destructive force. I despair for the world.

I know this adds nothing to the debate, the whole thing just makes me feel sad.

[sgreger1]

Aesop, my friend, can we cower to everyones wishes that their feelings never be hurt? Who should we listen to, and what should we do?


Aesop:


A Man and his son were once going with their Donkey to market. As they were walking along by its side a countryman passed them and said: "You fools, what is a Donkey for but to ride upon?"

So the Man put the Boy on the Donkey and they went on their way. But soon they passed a group of men, one of whom said: "See that lazy youngster, he lets his father walk while he rides."
So the Man ordered his Boy to get off, and got on himself. But they hadn't gone far when they passed two women, one of whom said to the other: "Shame on that lazy lout to let his poor little son trudge along."

Well, the Man didn't know what to do, but at last he took his Boy up before him on the Donkey. By this time they had come to the town, and the passers-by began to jeer and point at them. The Man stopped and asked what they were scoffing at. The men said: "Aren't you ashamed of yourself for overloading that poor donkey of yoursu and your hulking son?"
The Man and Boy got off and tried to think what to do. They thought and they thought, till at last they cut down a pole, tied the donkey's feet to it, and raised the pole and the donkey to their shoulders. They went along amid the laughter of all who met them till they came to Market Bridge, when the Donkey, getting one of his feet loose, kicked out and caused the Boy to drop his end of the pole. In the struggle the Donkey fell over the bridge, and his fore-feet being tied together he was drowned.
"That will teach you," said an old man who had followed them:
"Please all, and you will please none."

[snusgetter]

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Florida pastor's daughter says "he needs help"

BERLIN — The estranged daughter of a U.S. pastor who has threatened to burn copies of the Koran believes he has gone mad and needs help, she said in a German media interview conducted on Friday.

Emma Jones, who lives in Germany, told Spiegel Online she had e-mailed her father urging him to drop his plan to burn copies of the Islamic holy book, writing: "Dad, leave it be!"

He did not reply, she said.

Facing an outpouring of concern from U.S. leaders and anger from Muslims worldwide, Pastor Terry Jones, of Gainesville, Florida, said on Friday he no longer planned to burn the Koran on the anniversary of the September 11 attacks.

But Jones appeared to leave open the possibility he could change his mind if a proposed meeting fails to take place on Saturday in New York with Muslim leaders planning to build an Islamic center and mosque near the site of the September 11 attacks.

"My father is not one to give up," said Emma Jones, 30. "As a daughter, I see the good-natured core inside him. But I think he needs help."

"I think he has gone mad," she added.

She described how a Christian community her father spent years building in Cologne, Germany was at first Bible-orientated but later changed. After leaving the community aged 17, Emma Jones said she returned in 2005 to find it had become sect-like.

"I saw that my father preached and did things that I didn't find biblical at all. He demanded total allegiance to himself and his second wife," she said. His first wife, her mother, died in 1996.

"That was real religious delusion I saw," she added. "Typical evidence of a sect."

Emma Jones said the community kicked out her father in 2008, when he returned to the United States.

"I really hope he comes to his senses," she said.

[tom502]

I just think something is wrong, when Islamic extremists dictate American freedoms.

[lxskllr]

I just think something is wrong, when Islamic extremists dictate American freedoms.

THAT'S my problem with the whole thing. Who the hell are these twats to threaten someone because they burn some stupid book? I'm generally against burning books of any kind, because reading gives power to the masses, but if some douche tries to tell me I can't; burning books just got much higher on my priority list.

[f. bandersnatch]

If there is anything that being a part of an internet forum has taught me, its how to deal with obnoxious attention grubbing whores.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7goZUYGXAHA

[snusgetter]

STFU and go away!!

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Fla. pastor who planned to burn Quran flies to NY

GAINESVILLE, Fla. – An acquaintance of the pastor who once planned to burn copies of the Quran to mark the 9/11 anniversary says the Rev. Terry Jones headed to New York aboard a Friday night flight.

K.A. Paul, a Christian evangelist who runs a ministry in Houston, says he bought the ticket for Jones to fly out of Orlando and land around 10:15 p.m. in New York.

Jones landed in New York Friday night and declined to talk to reporters on his way to a cab.

Jones has said he wants to meet with the imam overseeing a proposed mosque and Islamic center to be built near ground zero.

Earlier Friday, Jones' son, Luke, said that the Quran-burning won't take place Saturday but couldn't say whether there would be a future event.


Confirmed by CNN

NEW MESSAGE OF PEACE FROM OUR TROOPS
to Terry Jones?

[snusgetter]

Is this finally the end of it?? Yeah, right!!

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Pastor Terry Jones: 'We will not burn the Quran'

Pastor Terry Jones told NBC's "Today" show on Saturday that his church in Gainesville, Fla., would not burn Qurans in protest to the building of an Islamic center near the site of the Sept. 11 attacks in 2001.

"We will definitely not burn the Quran, no," he said.

"Not today, not ever," he said when pressed about whether his planned demonstration might happen at a later date. He explained that it would not happen even if the Islamic center is built near ground zero.

Jones flew to New York to appear on NBC's "Today" show and told interviewer Carl Quintanilla that there was no meeting set up with New York Imam Faisal Rauf.

He said he hoped a meeting would take place, however.

Jones said that his church's goal was "to expose that there is an element of Islam that is very dangerous and very radical."

He told NBC that "we have definitely accomplished that mission."




Jones: "there is an element of Islam"

Ah, wait a minute... Hasn't he published a book stating that all of Islam is of the Devil?

How does he wrap his mind around that??


Wonder how the book sales are doing?

[tom502]

Well, stunt or not, he did further show the extrmist intolerance of Islam, and it's insane urg to kill others, because of their intolerance of other's freedom of expression. Burning a book is not comparable to death threats and actual killings, is what the extreme Muslims do. He also showed how the US bows to the extremists, and how they can dictate American freedoms. If we allow it, then this is how they conquer the west into sharia compliance.

[CoderGuy]

Well, stunt or not, he did further show the extrmist intolerance of Islam, and it's insane urg to kill others, because of their intolerance of other's freedom of expression. Burning a book is not comparable to death threats and actual killings, is what the extreme Muslims do. He also showed how the US bows to the extremists, and how they can dictate American freedoms. If we allow it, then this is how they conquer the west into sharia compliance.

Yep, we'll all be speaking Urdu in no time and towing our illiterate covered women around behind us. If it's any consolation, I don't think the administration would have made any difference. If Bush was still in I believe the outcries and outcome would have been the same.

[WickedKitchen]

I've been towing my illiterate, shackled woman behind me for years. I'd opt to keep her in the kitchen but she can't cook for shit either.

[visiON]

Yeah...

[sgreger1]

This guy may be crazy like a fox. He could have been proving a point. He "said" he was going to burn qurans, knowing that the unruly islamic people will do what they always do and go kill innocents every time they have a problem with anything, an he was right. By just suggesting that some redneck from the backwoods was going to burn a quran, the muslim people made an ass out of themselves yet again and showed that they are mainly a angry people who understand nothing of freedom and only seek to create destruction and violence. Their true colors come out yet again.


What funny is that in places like Iraq and afghanistan, they have always routinely burned bibles, yet you dont see christians out storming US military bases and trying to kill soldiers and civilians. lol because only crazy sociopaths act that way. I just wish islam would put more value on human life, especially their women.

[CoderGuy]

This guy may be crazy like a fox. He could have been proving a point. He "said" he was going to burn qurans, knowing that the unruly islamic people will do what they always do and go kill innocents every time they have a problem with anything, an he was right. By just suggesting that some redneck from the backwoods was going to burn a quran, the muslim people made an ass out of themselves yet again and showed that they are mainly a angry people who understand nothing of freedom and only seek to create destruction and violence. Their true colors come out yet again.


What funny is that in places like Iraq and afghanistan, they have always routinely burned bibles, yet you dont see christians out storming US military bases and trying to kill soldiers and civilians. lol because only crazy sociopaths act that way. I just wish islam would put more value on human life, especially their women.

I know right? They were burning bibles and crosses and the American flag and there was no comment from the rest of the world, just the "threat" of one guy burning and the whole world panics. Tell me the terrorists haven't won.

[visiON]

I know right? They were burning bibles and crosses and the American flag and there was no comment from the rest of the world, just the "threat" of one guy burning and the whole world panics. Tell me the terrorists haven't won.

Unfortunately, they have. If they make a threat, the whole country must obey, and there's nothing, even the president could do about it.