Huckabee opposes health insurance for people with pre existing conditions...

[Simplysnus]

OK, maybe someone has, and maybe we "are" on the right track (sort of)...

http://open.salon.com/blog/steve_ble...system/comment

No doubt Switzerland and Germany have systems we should seriously look at.

[raptor]

Single payer system: everyone gets adequate coverage. You get what you need when you need it. <---- great for most people and all poor people.

For those with money (like for example those who pay more for cadillac plans today): buy supplimental insurance. This allows you to go see a private doctor and get the higher level of care that comes with paying more.

To add, Europeans already do this (have wealthier people buy supplemental insurance).

[sgreger1]

OK, maybe someone has, and maybe we "are" on the right track (sort of)...

http://open.salon.com/blog/steve_ble...system/comment

This is exactly what i am talking about. Excelent link.



"In Switzerland, insurance companies must provide*basic*insurance to all recipients and cannot deny coverage on the basis of poor health. Premiums are not affected by*health status.*"Basic insurance"*is defined by government, which decides which drugs, lab tests, and devices will be covered. Deductibles and premiums are tightly regulated and cannot exceed*certain limits. Insur-ance companies cannot*profit from the basic plan, though they may profit from supplemental insurance."

[CoderGuy]

It doesn't really make much sense for anyone to get worked up over this, it's not like we have any control or any ability to change it. Lots of drama for no return.

[sgreger1]

To add, Europeans already do this (have wealthier people buy supplemental insurance).

Hence why i say "lets look at what already works".


Everyone benefits. The poor and those who dont want to spend extra get adequate coverage, those who wish to buy higher quality coverage may do so. Win/win.

[PipenSnus]

It doesn't really make much sense for anyone to get worked up over this, it's not like we have any control or any ability to change it. Lots of drama for no return.

Excellent point. What this and many other political issues boil down to is: Who would you rather have running your life, Big Business or Big Government? Real freedom isn't an option, and hasn't been for a long time.

[Simplysnus]

sgreger, the issue I have is using what Huckabee said as a way to make a case for single payer, the same thing he said about today's system and existing health conditions applies to single payer too, as far as insuring a burned house. If you agree with what he said, then logically you'd be for denying people coverage.

You did agree with him, and then go to supporting a system which would have the same problem. It's cool that you like single payer, but you shouldn't support analogies that attack the system you like in the same post.

[Simplysnus]

Hey coderguy, my wife wants to move to seattle, can you hook me up with a java gig?

[sgreger1]

sgreger, the issue I have is using what Huckabee said as a way to make a case for single payer, the same thing he said about today's system and existing health conditions applies to single payer too, as far as insuring a burned house. If you agree with what he said, then logically you'd be for denying people coverage.

You did agree with him, and then go to supporting a system which would have the same problem. It's cool that you like single payer, but you shouldn't support analogies that attack the system you like in the same post.

I see what your saying. Its hard for me to explain. Ill take the hit for this one since i dont feel like typing out a confusing book-long explanation.

I still say hes not just being a heartless dick, he is pointing out a very serious flaw in the proposed plan.hes not a psycho or a cold hearted hater of sick people, he is just trying to figure out how this will be paid for in a way that works, something congress did not think of doing when writing it.

[sgreger1]

Hey coderguy, my wife wants to move to seattle, can you hook me up with a java gig?

Send her on down, im sure coderguy will take REAL good care of her. Give her whatever kind of gig she is in the mood for.

[RobsanX]

I agree with sgreger too. Single payer with private supplemental insurance makes the most sense. It's too bad that Washington doesn't seem to think so...

[CoderGuy]

Hey coderguy, my wife wants to move to seattle, can you hook me up with a java gig?

I am sure there are some positions available

http://www.bikini-baristas.com/bikin...s-seattle.html

[Simplysnus]

I am sure there are some positions available

http://www.bikini-baristas.com/bikin...s-seattle.html

Well I know where I'd get my java, lol. What do you have to tip at a place like that??

[CoderGuy]

Well I know where I'd get my java, lol. What do you have to tip at a place like that??

Guess it depends on if you're married or not. If so... whatever the attorney fees are I suppose.

[CoderGuy]

And as not to derail the thread too much, it's pretty obvious from the pics that the bikini baristas don't have "full coverage" <ba dump bump>