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  • truthwolf1
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    • Oct 2008
    • 2696

    #16
    Originally posted by raptor View Post
    Yes, but there is no unified vision which is why the tea party looks like an angry reactionary mob. As such it's no surprise you get crazies like Christine O'Donnell as looney candidates.
    I could name quite a few things which I would cut although I am part of the original Tea Party train of thought. In a sense I feel quite alienated from this new group but I would vote for one of these idiots just to throw a hook into the two party system.

    The unified vision is a emotional outcry with out with the old and in with the new. Same way it was for Obama and Oprah crying at that rally. Vision is not necessarily vision as we have seen with Obama.

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    • NonServiam
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      • May 2010
      • 736

      #17
      No offense to my fellow Snuson Yankees, but I vow the southern states secede from the union to resolve the issue of being mandated to participate in the federal health care system and any other subsequent B.S. the D.C. concocts. Supposedly, some states still have the loophole to do so and want their state's rights back.

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      • ratcheer
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        • Jul 2010
        • 621

        #18
        Originally posted by tom502 View Post
        At least they are pro-America crazies. The opposite is what we have in office now.
        +1, again.

        Tim

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        • GoVegan
          Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 5603

          #19
          Originally posted by tom502 View Post
          I want Rand, or Ron Paul to be President 2012.
          Yes, that would be nice. I was kind of hoping for Dennis Kucinich myself. Funny thing is that they both have the same chance of actually being elected.

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          • raptor
            Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 753

            #20
            Originally posted by GoVegan View Post
            Yes, that would be nice. I was kind of hoping for Dennis Kucinich myself. Funny thing is that they both have the same chance of actually being elected.
            Kucinich is probably the least corrupt politician out there. Yes, he would be nice, but in this political environment he'd get destroyed no matter how well-meaning he is.

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            • tom502
              Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 8985

              #21
              Savage's 'manifesto for saving America'
              New book counters 'most dangerous man' to occupy White House

              © 2010 WorldNetDaily

              Michael Savage has a "manifesto for saving America," and it will come as no surprise to his millions of faithful radio listeners that it offers prescriptions that aren't found in the House Republicans' "Pledge to America."

              Savage's 37-point plan – "Trickle Up Poverty: Stopping Obama's Attack on Our Borders, Economy and Security" by HarperCollins – hits bookstores today with a call to "run the country like a business, not an empire; close the borders; institute a flat tax; use profiling to prevent terror attacks; and privatize the regulation of Wall Street;" among others.

              "The more conservative points were left out of the Republican plan for America," he told WND in an interview. "They have no specifics about cutting back on government spending. They have no specifics on stopping the flow of illegal aliens."

              While some tea party leaders have deemphasized or set aside abortion and other social issues, Savage tackles them head on, calling for a ban on the deadly procedure, with the exception of the physical survival of the mother as determined by two licensed doctors.

              He also wants to see Norplant, the embedded contraceptive, required for all women on welfare.

              "That's a revolutionary statement," he admitted. "But should we permit women on welfare to keep knocking out babies to increase their benefits? Only an insane society would permit that."

              Savage doesn't apologize that the book is "quite radical" in some respects.

              "I don't claim to be middle of the road, nor do I claim to be Mr. Milquetoast," he said.

              Savage makes his case with details about Obama's history ignored by mainstream media and with his trademark recall of lessons from growing up in the Bronx in an immigrant family.

              He learned in his youth that the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, but, today, he said, people seem to fear nobody.

              "They don't fear authority, they don't fear the police," he said. "The children don't respect the teachers; no one respects preachers; nobody respects anybody. It's anarchy."

              Savage told WND he wrote the book "hoping to alter the course of human events" that have accelerated under President Obama with unprecedented speed, calling the current administration the "greatest fraud perpetrated on the American people in history."

              Without hesitation, he dubs Obama "the most divisive and dangerous man that's ever occupied the Oval Office."

              "The man is walking around with a scythe, like the grim reaper, to everything that is sacred and everything that is wonderful about America," Savage said. "I don't know of one thing he has done that is positive. I've never seen anything like this."

              He likens Obama to the mid-19th century "child king" Ludwig II, who ascended to the Bavarian throne at age 18.

              Ludwig "had such grandiose ideas of himself and such narcissism that he bankrupted the public treasury with projects such as building a replica of the Palace of Versailles, down to the Hall of Mirrors," Savage said.

              "We have almost a child president, someone who has never fully molted and grown into an adult. He's acting as though he is still a teenager trying to get even with the man."

              But there is a method to Obama's madness, Savage contends. In "Trickle Up Poverty," he examines Obama's "Marxist-Leninist roots" in some detail, noting, for example the assessment of John Drew, a contemporary of Obama's at Occidental College in Los Angeles who described himself as a serious "Marxist revolutionary."

              Drew came to view Obama as a "blood brother" and a "member of this revolutionary elite that was going to turn around our country when the revolution hit."

              Savage explains that Obama isn't the stereotypical Marxist of "the red beret, the marching, the Russian revolution and killing the rich."

              In the book, he places Obama in the historic Frankfurt school of socialism that espoused a gradual transformation from capitalism to socialism to communism.

              Documenting numerous radical-left influences in Obama's past, Savage concludes it's no wonder that as a candidate he spoke of "spreading the wealth around."

              Recognizing others have addressed Obama's radical past, Savage said his book is different because it shows specifically how the president's ideologically fueled policies affect individual Americans and their families.

              He recalled the Roman historian Cato the Elder's observation that the average Roman didn't care about what the legions were doing in foreign lands.

              "You know what they cared about?" Savage asked. "They cared about the pebble in the shoe. Meaning, what affects them on a daily basis. They didn't care about great victories in Spain, or in Germany. They cared only about the pebble in the shoe. Did the price of meat go up? Did the price of bread go up? Did taxes go up? That's all they cared about. Did they have a job?"

              Borders, economy and security

              On the immigration front, "Trickle Up Poverty" emphasizes Savage's long-time theme of "borders, language and culture," but under Obama he finds new reasons to worry.

              Illegal immigration, he warns, is not just about Democrats procuring more votes and workers. Many don't realize, he said, that Obama is sympathetic to a movement – led by groups such as La Raza, which translates "the race," and the Chicano nationalist student organization MeChA – determined to one day return major portions of the U.S. Southwest to Mexico.

              He noted Obama appointed a former La Raza senior vice president, Cecilia Munoz, as his director of intergovernmental affairs at the White House in January 2009.

              Savage advocates closing the borders to illegal immigration and eliminating "anchor babies," the granting of American citizenship to anyone born on U.S. soil, regardless of the parents' citizenship.

              "Who ever heard of a sovereign nation being so passive to an invasion of this magnitude?" he asked. "Who ever heard of this?"

              The son of a Russian immigrant, he acknowledged "everyone has sympathy for immigrants, because we are all descended from immigrants." People ask him, "How can you be against immigrants, Michael, your father was an immigrant."

              He responds, "Yeah, well he didn't sneak across the border, and my grandfather didn't either. They waited in line."

              Savage sums up Obama's handling of the economy with the recent news, based on government data, that Obama has added more to the national debt in the first 19 months of his presidency than all presidents from George Washington through Ronald Reagan combined.

              Obama's approach to foreign policy and national security is even more worrisome than the borders and the economy, Savage said.

              "Never forget that he gave speeches in the last year in which he said he wants to have destroyed one-third of our nuclear weapons," he said. "Do people have any idea what this means? It's giving Russia a strategic advantage because we are going to destroy our weapons, including some of our newer nukes, while Russia gets to keep all of their weapons, so we're at parity. But all of their weapons are newer."

              Obama's defunding of NASA is another telling policy, Savage said.

              "How in the world can people not see that this man is enacting the dream of every college leftist for the last 40 years?" he asked. "He actually said he wants to buy seats on the Russian space shuttle for American astronauts. What a humiliation."

              'Don't underestimate him'

              In the face of the powerful tea party movement and dismal approval ratings, Obama and the Democratic-controlled Congress have slowed their agenda, putting on the backburner, for example, issues such as control of the airwaves.

              But Savage, who continues to battle the Labour Party government's speech-related ban on his entry to the U.K., is concerned that if Democrats hold on to a majority, they will press forward with unpopular policies such as a revival of the "Fairness Doctrine" or a similar measure that would virtually shut down the dominant conservative voice on talk radio.

              "Don't think this man has stopped just because he's unpopular," Savage said. "Don't underestimate him."

              Savage said he hopes the predicted Republican rout in November in rebuke of Obama's administration takes place, but he warns that the GOP shouldn't get too cocky about the 2012 presidential election.

              "First of all, there is a long way to go, there are a lot of things that could happen," he said. "And more than any of that, the Republicans are notoriously famous for shooting themselves in the foot."

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              • sgreger1
                Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 9451

                #22
                I love Michael Savage, he's an awesome dude and lives here in San Francisco last I heard. Read a few of his books, like borders/language/culture. I like him because he spend an equal amount of time ragging on the republicans as he does the dems.

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                • RobsanX
                  Member
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 2030

                  #23
                  I don't understand why people think that Republicans care about the national debt. They didn't give a shit about it for 8 years under Bush.

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                  • raptor
                    Member
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 753

                    #24
                    and the 8 years under Reagan

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                    • tom502
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                      • Feb 2009
                      • 8985

                      #25
                      I agree with everything he says in that article.

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                      • raptor
                        Member
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 753

                        #26
                        From what I've interpreted in the article, he places way too much blame on Obama. Sure Obama has a good number of terrible policies which I too hate, but remember it's Congress that makes the laws, both Democrats and Republicans. Obama is hardly the socialist Savage believes he is. And Savage still has this sort of Cold War mindset which doesn't really apply today; Russia isn't by any means an enemy or competitor (China will be, if it isn't already).

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                        • sgreger1
                          Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 9451

                          #27
                          Originally posted by RobsanX View Post
                          I don't understand why people think that Republicans care about the national debt. They didn't give a shit about it for 8 years under Bush.


                          Because it's all a sham. Dem/rep are just two masks on the same face. They don't care about deficits because they are spending other people's money and they are rich enough to not care about short downturns in the market, plain and simple.


                          But with only about 34% of Americans identifying as Democrats, and independents known to swing radically each election, it would not surprise me if the republicans gain a lot of seats this election. I wonder what will happen when they don't fix the budget either? Maybe America will be watching more closely and they will call them out on it. Maybe people will wake up and vote for someone, ANYONE, else in the next election. No dems and no reps.

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                          • justintempler
                            Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 3090

                            #28
                            Originally posted by tom502 View Post
                            Savage's 'manifesto for saving America'
                            New book counters 'most dangerous man' to occupy White House

                            © 2010 WorldNetDaily

                            Michael Savage has a "manifesto for saving America,...."
                            What a combination... Michael Savage and World Nut Daily.

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                            • truthwolf1
                              Member
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 2696

                              #29
                              I really hope that the Republicans do well in this election. When they accomplish nothing in the first year it will be the perfect time for a third party presidential candidate. My early prediction will be a Obama, Romney and somebody who can bring the Tea Party and lefties together.

                              It is really starting to feel like it did when Jesse Ventura was elected but on a national scale. People were absolutely sick of the same old democrats and did not trust the other new slick New York republican politician.

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                              • sgreger1
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                                • Mar 2009
                                • 9451

                                #30
                                Originally posted by truthwolf1 View Post
                                I really hope that the Republicans do well in this election. When they accomplish nothing in the first year it will be the perfect time for a third party presidential candidate. My early prediction will be a Obama, Romney and somebody who can bring the Tea Party and lefties together.

                                It is really starting to feel like it did when Jesse Ventura was elected but on a national scale. People were absolutely sick of the same old democrats and did not trust the other new slick New York republican politician.

                                Yah i'm rooting for them just so that they will piss people off really badly and everyone will be like "****, we just had the dems, now the reps ****ed us too, now what?" And hopefully someone will be standing there to answer that question.

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