Why do people believe in conspiracy theories, or why does Tom exist...

[devilock76]

Yah the freeware graphics editing program? Like a freeware photoshop almost, right? Used to be really cool but I havn't used it since maybe 2000

Yup, it pretty much stays up to date with the previous to current version of photoshop features wise.

Ken

[dEFinitionofEPIC]

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Big Pharma: Real
The Roswell Crash Cover-Up: Not Real
Protocols of the Elders of Zion: Real
Satanic Cults: Skeptical
JFK Assassination: Real
Princess Diana's Murder: Skeptical
Subliminal Advertising: Skeptical
The Moon Landing Hoax: Skeptical
Paul McCartney's Death: Not Real
9-11: Real
The Holocasut: Not real
Zionists Runs the World: Skeptical
UFO's: Skeptical

[truthwolf1]

It is always a good idea to report these things so they can get officially documented. Might be quite relevant to the people studying this phenomenon.

[devilock76]

Of all those the ones I give ANY weight to:

Big Pharma - conspiracy no, greed overriding any good the industry can do, most likely. I consider that business as usual and we keep electing the people they buy, like Obama.

JFK Assassination - I do not believe Oswald acted alone. I believe Kennedy was killed because he was a threat to the cold war military objectives. I don't really like Kennedy, but I think he had a vision of a more global PEACE process. Would it have succeeded, been good or bad, I don't know. But I think the concept really scares a lot of people, especially in power. Just look at today. And that is why I think he was killed.

Subliminal Advertising - ok do I believe they are hiding actual subliminal messages in a They type sense. No. I do believe advertising firms and many companies have a great deal of intellectual investment in the way shapes, colors, sounds, images and even phrasing of words can shape the way people feel about things that they have no concrete experience with. In effect this is subliminal messaging but not to the conspiracy level some might like to put it.

Oh and yes I believe the Holocaust happened. Family there first hand. Grandfather was on the beach at Omaha, served through the entire European theater.

Ken

[lxskllr]

Big Pharma: Real
The Roswell Crash Cover-Up: Real but not aliens
Protocols of the Elders of Zion: Not Real
Satanic Cults: Not Real
JFK Assassination: Skeptical
Princess Diana's Murder: Dunno
Subliminal Advertising: Skeptical
The Moon Landing Hoax: Not Real
Paul McCartney's Death: Not Real
9-11: Not Real
The Holocasut: Not a conspiracy in the literal sense, but shady history's been written
Zionists Runs the World: Not Real
UFO's: Real as in they are UFOs what they are is undetermined.

[tom502]

Big Pharma: Real
The Roswell Crash Cover-Up: Real
Protocols of the Elders of Zion: Partially Real
Satanic Cults: Not real
JFK Assassination: I don't know
Princess Diana's Murder: I don't know
Subliminal Advertising: Too a degree
The Moon Landing Hoax: real
Paul McCartney's Death: did he die?
9-11: Real
The Holocasut: Real
Zionists Runs the World: To a large degree
UFO's: Real

[devilock76]

Big Pharma: Real
The Roswell Crash Cover-Up: Real
Protocols of the Elders of Zion: Partially Real
Satanic Cults: Not real
JFK Assassination: I don't know
Princess Diana's Murder: I don't know
Subliminal Advertising: Too a degree
The Moon Landing Hoax: real
Paul McCartney's Death: did he die?
9-11: Real
The Holocasut: Real
Zionists Runs the World: To a large degree
UFO's: Real

To anyone who doubts the moon landing go to an astronomical observatory with the equipment to hit the laser reflector the astronauts placed on the moon. Or if you are lazy watch the Mythbusters do just that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orvMZn8L1f0

Ken

[tom502]

Soviets placed lazer reflectors there long ago with unmanned craft.

[truthwolf1]

Big Pharma: Real- Another article today about human testing of STD's
The Roswell Crash Cover-Up: Real, a lot of witnesse's. Deathbed confessions
Protocols of the Elders of Zion: Skeptical, but sounds pretty convincing
Satanic Cults: Real- The rich love this being in the dark evil world stuff
JFK Assassination: Real- Last president not a CFR member and wanted to do his own thing. Deathbed confessions
Princess Diana's Murder: Skeptical- Car crash setups seem pretty difficult, but they hated her.
Subliminal Advertising: Real- In the biz myself. Learned many tricks in art school.
The Moon Landing Hoax: Skeptical- Photos- lost tapes- etc..
Paul McCartney's Death: Dont know anything about this one.
9-11: Most Real
The Holocasut: Real, but extremely exagerrated and used for money/control
Zionists Runs the World: Partly Real, at least the USA but not the entire world
UFO's: Real- Too many sightings, witnesse's. Unless we have been kept back as a Human race from extreme new technology/dimensions/vibrations.

[devilock76]

Soviets placed lazer reflectors there long ago with unmanned craft.

You mean the one they just found? How does that explain all the times people have done this in the past when it was missing for 40 years?

I mean this is just a ludicrous one to argue. But I am talking to a person who believes someone selling radionics devices more than NASA or any other convention of modern science.

Ken

[sgreger1]

You mean the one they just found? How does that explain all the times people have done this in the past when it was missing for 40 years?

I mean this is just a ludicrous one to argue. But I am talking to a person who believes someone selling radionics devices more than NASA or any other convention of modern science.

Ken

Lol, not to defend tom or the bogus moon hoax theories, but I think what he is presenting as evidence is the fact that the soviets demonstrated that a mirror could be placed there via unmanned missions. Therefore we could have put ours there with robots, as it did no require a human to install it. Since no human was required to install it, and other countries did it via robot, it's existence does not prove that we walked a man on the moon.

I think that is actually a legit defense, however, what is unmistakeable is the fact that YOU CAN SEE THE LANDER AND THE ROVER STILL SITTING THERE, COMPLETE WITH THE TRACKS IT LEFT BEHIND.

Seems like sending a man to the moon would be much easier than goign through all this trouble of making fake tracks on the moon etc. lol.

[raptor]

Zionists Run The World: Nope
Zionists have a huge influence over American media and politicians through extensive lobbying/playing victim/Holocaust: Yep

[tom502]

sgreg- u cannot see the lander. You can see a spot. But we have shot up unmanmned vehicles, as well as the Soviets and maybe others. So, even if you could see that distance, you might see something. But seeing a little dot of maybe something does not equal proof. Neither does tracks in the sand, because the Soviets did land an umanned rover vehicle long ago.

[devilock76]

Lol, not to defend tom or the bogus moon hoax theories, but I think what he is presenting as evidence is the fact that the soviets demonstrated that a mirror could be placed there via unmanned missions. Therefore we could have put ours there with robots, as it did no require a human to install it. Since no human was required to install it, and other countries did it via robot, it's existence does not prove that we walked a man on the moon.

I think that is actually a legit defense, however, what is unmistakeable is the fact that YOU CAN SEE THE LANDER AND THE ROVER STILL SITTING THERE, COMPLETE WITH THE TRACKS IT LEFT BEHIND.

Seems like sending a man to the moon would be much easier than goign through all this trouble of making fake tracks on the moon etc. lol.

This is one of those things that goes no where. I see no way to make Tom see logic and reason on such things. We have been there so that is enough. I only chime in to leave balanced counter point.

And to be fair there are plenty who could say the same of me.

Ken

[tom502]

There simply is no proof. It's belief. You can believe we went there, humans landed, or not. Or we went there, but the footage was faked because what was there is not what we have been told is there.