Why do people believe in conspiracy theories, or why does Tom exist...

[tom502]

http://raelianews.org/news.php?extend.399

[truthwolf1]

I did not know that Australia was also part of the Zionist thought control clampdown.

[truthwolf1]

Makes we want to watch Fire In The Sky and scratch my butt. Just "the scene", rather, the rest of the movie kind of sucked. Was there anal probing? In my recollection, you bet your ass there was. It was implied.

I kinda remember that movie and that they all passed a lie detector test also. Not sure if that was based on a true story.

Abductions and anal probes are not just for hill billies but have been happening to all kinds of people. I recently heard something about re-gressed memories of actual child birth could be the culprit. It could explain the anal probe as a thermometer, the sting in the eye's from disinfectent, the large needles, masked people with big alien eye's looking over you etc..

Whatever is happening is very real to the people that are experiencing it.

[sgreger1]

I kinda remember that movie and that they all passed a lie detector test also. Not sure if that was based on a true story.

Abductions and anal probes are not just for hill billies but have been happening to all kinds of people. I recently heard something about re-gressed memories of actual child birth could be the culprit. It could explain the anal probe as a thermometer, the sting in the eye's from disinfectent, the large needles, masked people with big alien eye's looking over you etc..

Whatever is happening is very real to the people that are experiencing it.

I don't believe obductions are real at all. There is no basis for it. That whole hypnotizing thing make sit very easy for suggestion to alter what you "remember".

From what i've gathered, they never interact at all. The closest thing is perhaps shutting off nuke silos but otehr than that I have no reason to believe in abductions or anal probes or anything like that. Most of those myths were created during the period whent he government actively funded a campaign to debunk UFO type stuff and spread disinformation.


The cattle mutilation thing is kind of interesting though, not sure of what use it could be, but apparently some pretty advanced tools are used. It might just be people stealing organs and such for blackmarket medical research or something though so who knows.

[lxskllr]

Thanks, lxskllr. It's taken a little under a year, but those are the two manufacturers i have settled on as my preferred snus. Question for you. I've read on one site (can't remember it for the life of me) that the tobacco used in Gotlands is grown on the island itself and is exclusive to them. Do you know if this is correct? It may have been referring to when Gotlands first started up and doesn't apply today. There is a certain 'fluffiness' i have found when opening a fresh can that no other brand can touch. Was wondering if this is due to their specific tobacco or just the care they take in making the snus. I figured you would be one of the few here that could answer this for me.

James covered it. They don't use Swedish tobacco exclusively, just part of a blend. I'm not sure what makes Gotland unique. It shares some characteristics with the Taboca line. They used to be manufactured in the same facility, and to my taste, have a "house" flavor. I prefer the Gotland blends in every case excepting Montecristo lös. I like that as well as Gotland Gul, but differently.

[truthwolf1]

I almost picked up a can of Taboca los but thought it might be a little too bergamont bitter compared to the perfect Gotlands Gul. Opened a can last night after not having any for six months and made a 3 clicker, absolute primo!

but back to Alien abductions.

A advanced species would more then likely treat us the way we treat our animals in the world. Animal notices foreign object in his world (a jeep) and then is taken out with tranquilizer dart. Wakes up in a field and feels violated.

I think the scenario is very plausible and dont think Aliens would be coming in to the front door of the white house.

[tom502]

I just hope undisputed mass contact happens before I die.

[sgreger1]

I almost picked up a can of Taboca los but thought it might be a little too bergamont bitter compared to the perfect Gotlands Gul. Opened a can last night after not having any for six months and made a 3 clicker, absolute primo!

but back to Alien abductions.

A advanced species would more then likely treat us the way we treat our animals in the world. Animal notices foreign object in his world (a jeep) and then is taken out with tranquilizer dart. Wakes up in a field and feels violated.

I think the scenario is very plausible and dont think Aliens would be coming in to the front door of the white house.

Agreed. I highly doubt they would come to us on an "equal" basis. Even if monkeys would talk, some wouldn't care and jsut treat them like monkeys.

Perhaps different UFO's have different motives. We assume they are all on the same page but that is unlikely. What if they are poachers hunting for game and earth is like a wildlife preserve? Pick up some hicks somewhere etc. Like any society, some may be well meaning, others may be pirates. If "V" ever happened and aliens came, I wouldn't trust them AT ALL for a very long time. You know us Americans, we don't take kindly to fuuuuuureigners round these parts! lol

[jamesstew]

Makes me wanna watch "Deliverance".

[tom502]

[sgreger1]

The baloon thing has pretty much been disproven as much as possible. The sighting went on from 9 am untill alter that night, all in various areas of manhattan. The baloons from the teachers wedding were not released untill 1pm and they were some cheap balons, hardly capable of traveling 15 miles in one direction, at 5,000 feet, and thens suddenly stopping in one plaec and hovering about around the area.

Also, UFO sightings in manhattan are extremely common. Even John Lennon saw one in Manhattan which he even wrote a song about (titled "Strange Days Indeed"), so this is not even relaly news. What is news is the fact that the news picked it up at all.


The most common description of these UFO's was "jellyfish with lights on them". Additionally the same type of craft was seen in other countries, so I dunno, the odds are kind of against this being a baloon. Mainly the fact that they were there in various places for over 15 hours.

[tom502]

You are bigger true believer than I am. Go to Above Top Secret and read though the MANY threads. I think it might change your mind. The only maybe I think, is the night footage, but I am thinking it may be airplanes. Oh, I DO want them, and all of them, to be real ET ufos, but I'm not feelin' it here. I'm still holdin' on the for the big one.

[truthwolf1]

Disclosure is coming but we will probably be the last country to admit it.

[sgreger1]

You are bigger true believer than I am. Go to Above Top Secret and read though the MANY threads. I think it might change your mind. The only maybe I think, is the night footage, but I am thinking it may be airplanes. Oh, I DO want them, and all of them, to be real ET ufos, but I'm not feelin' it here. I'm still holdin' on the for the big one.

I think the issue is that there was a certain type of craft seen in the area for several hours, and yet the news report seems to link to a youtube video that looks like it could be baloons. Not sure why they would like to that video but it seems that it was maybe the only one available at the time.


I just don't think that many people in manhattan park of all places would be so mesmarized by baloons, which are commonly found around Manhattan park. I mean cummon, we've all seen baloons in the sky.

The reason i believe it may be genuine is that new york and manhattan in particular are hotspots for UFO's. It's not an uncommon occurence. What's uncomon here is that so many people stopped to look and called the police about it.


Either way, fake or not, I don't really care unless these cowards come down here and talk to us. Seems like theyr wasting a lot of fuel just flying all over the world and never accomplishing anything but pissing off hillbillies(Hey, maybe it's Al Gore doing all this, who also flies all over the world in the best aircraft annoying hillbillies yet never accomplishing anything!).

[sgreger1]

Disclosure is coming but we will probably be the last country to admit it.

Lets start a pool here betting on whether or not the aliens will be deemed terrorists or environmental extremists!