It's Official: I Have Leukoplakia

[devilock76]

That's not a credible source - Yahoo Answers - There's mostly kids playing around on Yahoo answers...

Here's a more solid source from - http://www.wikipedia.com

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Exactly, wow yahoo answers as a reference. That is so shocking and appalling to me. At this rate people will be using the Onion and Mad Magazine as part of their research papers works cited page!

Ken

[snusgetter]

[precious007]

LoL

Asbenstos would have been worse than glass

[devilock76]

LoL

Asbenstos would have been worse than glass

But it would keep you warm!

Ken

[CoderGuy]

Just an example of how clueless medical professionals are with snus, my dad is in the hospital and he smokes 3 packs per day so naturally he kept bugging them about smoking. The RN said, "You need to quit, it's killing you" and then she said to us, "You guys need to quit too." I said, "I quit 17 months ago" and my dad said, "Yeah he's a snuser now" to which the RN said, "OMG that's worse than cigarettes, snus gives you lung cancer twice as fast, you have to stop that now!" LOL I told her I had done my research and was practicing "Harm Reduction". She laughed and said, "There is no such thing, the tobacco companies make that up to keep you hooked." and asked if I wanted information to help me quit, to which I replied, "No thanks, I am not ready to quit yet." Idiots.

[devilock76]

Nothing more dangerous than an ignorant opinion bolstered by a degree or title.

Ken

[pipes]

All the sparkles are sugar ! I blennded pipe tobacco for yrs as a business and A good Va tobacco aged will have those sparkles all over it !And the sugar and flavors they add to dip just adds to it .

[pipes]

One thing besides vitamin C thats helps me besides brushing is a product called Dr's Brush picks they work great to get los tobacco from between your teeth and genral gum health ! They kina hurt a little when you first start using them but there a fantastic product IMHO . I carry a little tube filled with them in my pocket and keep a couple packs in the bathroom for when I get done brushing its IMO better than any flos .....ymmv thou

[devilock76]

One thing besides vitamin C thats helps me besides brushing is a product called Dr's Brush picks they work great to get los tobacco from between your teeth and genral gum health ! They kina hurt a little when you first start using them but there a fantastic product IMHO . I carry a little tube filled with them in my pocket and keep a couple packs in the bathroom for when I get done brushing its IMO better than any flos .....ymmv thou

These things:

http://doctorsnightguard.com/product...picks/overview

?

Ken

[pipes]

Yappers thats them and there dirt cheap at Wallyworld !In the same section area as the floss and things .

[devilock76]

Yappers thats them and there dirt cheap at Wallyworld !In the same section area as the floss and things .

I think I will have to check them out. Thanks for the tip.

Ken

[Bigblue1]

Yappers thats them and there dirt cheap at Wallyworld !In the same section area as the floss and things .

Yep that's where I bought em. They are great inter-dental devices.....

[rothenbj]

yeah, as far as the pancreatic cancer goes I have heard that smokers have 5 times the rate cancer as non smokers. So even if it is doubled by snus, you are still far safer to use snus than smoke.

Actually, the numbers were something like 3.9 per 100k for never smokers, 8.8/100k for snus users and 13/100k for smokers from the Karlinska Institute study for pancreatic cancer. They found no correlation between snus use and lung cancer or mouth cancer. I think the study is over 20 years old, before the anti-smoking/nicotine/tobacco industry changed their definition of statistical significance in epidemiology to fit their ideology.

Now they can find statistical significance in whatever they study. Talk about the tobacco industry propaganda.....

[rothenbj]

I found this link while searching for an unrelated purpose, but thought it might be an interesting read for anyone reading this thread.

http://www.estoc.org/science-research

[CoderGuy]

I found this link while searching for an unrelated purpose, but thought it might be an interesting read for anyone reading this thread.

http://www.estoc.org/science-research

Interesting, thanks rothenbj