SALT CAN BE GOOD.

[STORM6490MT]

Well, if you don't have salt you will die. True, Americans consume way too much sodium. We are eating the wrong types of salt. Most of the salt consumed is chemical sodium chloride found in processed foods and drinks.

If you could cut out the processed foods in your diet you would be way better off. Sodium levels are only one part of the poison.

One 12oz can of Pepsi has around 30 grams of sodium. An average 45gram tin of snus has about 3% salt or 1.35 grams of sodium.

So, you will need to consume a little more than 22 tins of snus in order to attain the same level of sodium as in one Pepsi.

Pretty freaking sketchy. You are what you eat. Eat shit and you know.....

Now to the Pro side of the FIFTH ELEMENT.. Real salt can help your health considerably. Your system needs sodium to function properly. I use Himalayan salt that is millions of years old and has about 100 different minerals in it. It's expensive for salt but you don't need that much salt. For cooking I use sea salt. The white salt you buy at the store is garbage and does more harm than good. Think of it as white refined sugar. It may be named sugar but you know it's not good for you.

Anyway, I'd worry more about the poisons in our food than the salt used in snus..

Nick

[eli]

Well Sodium Chloride is major salt the body uses for retention of water. You can somewhat balance the salt in your diet with the amount of water you drink, water flushes out excess salts, minerals and water-soluable vitamins. The himalayan salt (or flur de sal, or a million other ancient salts) all contain sodium chloride as thier primary mineral but they also have a much higher trace mineral content due to their formation processes and the fact that no purification processes are done on the salts to ensure that they're pure sodium chloride (in truth most American table salt contains iodine another essential nutrient for avoiding goiters, most commonly found naturally occurring in seafood).

however the quantities most Americans consume is very unhealthy they'd have to be drinking, literally, gallons of water every day to avoid any negative impact. The salt in a whole can of snus as STORM here pointed out is much lower in content than your average soft drink or box of french fries, and thus is not a significant impact in your dietary sodium intake.

One of the largest contributers to the American high-salt intake is the opinion that you can salt food after you cook it, thus many (lower quality) restaurants, home cooks and the like leave salt out and allow the customer/dinner guest to pour salt on it after it's on their plate. the diner then dumps a far greater amount of salt on their food than would ever be added to the average dish, because the flavor enhancement properties of salt are amplified by heat you need much more salt actually poured on top of food to get the same effect on the flavor (and much of this salt is merely left on top of the food and you get a blast of saltiness prior to each bite). Properly seasoning food while it's cooking is one of the greatest ways to reduce your overall salt intake.

Now while salt has not been shown to cause high blood pressure it can exacerbate the condition in those whose blood pressure is already high, it's a diners responsibility to let cooks know not to put salt in their food (much like any other dietary restriction).

[lxskllr]

That figure for Pepsi is off quite a bit. I don't have a can of soda in front of me, but 30g is about 1.5oz(weight) of salt :^O I dare somebody to even try drinking a liquid solution that has that much salt in it :^P

[eli]

Yeah, that seems a little off for me to, now that I think about it. A can of coke has 50mg of sodium, I think there's a mg/g confusion here.

Reports show that snus is 1.3-3.5% salt, this means that in a 1 gram portion you've got 35mg sodium in the saltiest of snus.

[STORM6490MT]

That figure for Pepsi is off quite a bit. I don't have a can of soda in front of me, but 30g is about 1.5oz(weight) of salt :^O I dare somebody to even try drinking a liquid solution that has that much salt in it :^P

uff-da. my math is way off. sorry, i have been sick this week and wrote this at around 420.

i meant to say its a lot of snus to equal the salt in one can of soda.

i will get it figured out when my brain connects...

[aardvark]

i meant to say its a lot of snus to equal the salt in one can of soda.

I'm sorry, but I have to disappoint you.
200 ml (about one glass) of Pepsi-Cola Light contain 0.2 g of sodium[1], while a can of Göteborgs Rapé loose (45 g) contains 2.25 g of (kooking) salt[2].

The 2.25 g of salt in the loose are not just sodium but sodiumchloride actually, so to get the real amount of sodium alone in the loose we need to do some calculations:
Sodiumchloride weights 55.5 g per mole -> this means that the 2.25 g of salt per can equal 0.04 moles of sodiumchloride.
Now, sodium alone weights 23 g per mole which means that the 0.04 moles of sodiumchloride contain 0.04 moles x 23 g/mole = 0.9 g of sodium.

Conclusion: There are 0.2 g of sodium per glass of Pepsi versus 0.9 g of sodium in a can of snus what means that a can of snus contains more than 4 times the amount of sodium that's in a glass of pepsi.
But taking in consideration that a can of loose usually lasts several days while a bottle of Pepsi (about 1.5 g of sodium) only lasts one day, there is no reason to be concerned about the amount of salt in the snus.

[1] http://das-ist-drin.de/Pepsi-Cola-Pe...1500-ml--7092/
[2] http://www.gothiatek.com/templates/s...px?page_id=147

[Asquar]

Interesting. I wonder how much of this 0.9g of sodium is actually consumed by us? On one hand, salt is water soluble, so I'd think that we'd be absorbing it fairly rapidly, but on the other hand snus isn't chewed up and swallowed, so there may be quite a bit of sodium content leftover when the pris (or tin) is finished.

Anyone have an idea?

[Craig de Tering]

i meant to say its a lot of snus to equal the salt in one can of soda.

200 ml (about one glass)

HAHAHA, yeah, a EUROPEAN restaurant-sized glass of anything. :lol:
A curse on these tiny f*ing beverage servings over here.
Thank goodness at least our beer sizes and varieties more than make up for that.*

* At least in Germany, Belgium and Czech Republic the standard size pilsner is 500ml or more.

[aardvark]

HAHAHA, yeah, a EUROPEAN restaurant-sized glass of anything. :lol:

Oh yes, you're of course right, thank you! So let's make half a liter out of a glass then, so it's 0.5 g of Sodium per glass. Still less than a can of snus though but we're getting closer to 1 glass of Pepsi = 1 can of snus.

[aardvark]

Interesting. I wonder how much of this 0.9g of sodium is actually consumed by us?

That's a good question that would have to be analyzed in some kind of experiment I guess. I think that some sodium will probably remain in the snus since you don't chew on it as you said.
I think that it will depend on how long you leave a pris/pouch in your mouth and if you just let it sit there or if you mess around with it and suck on the pouch.

[TropicalBob]

Interesting topic. When I was a reporter, a doctor told me the only people who must watch salt intake are the salt-sensitive. And they'll know who they are. Normal folks can eat all the salt they want -- and they'll excrete what the body doesn't need and can't use.

It's a daily essential.

And there are four basic tastes: Sweet, sour, bitter and salty. I like only sweet and salty, so I use a lot of salt. And sugar. Fact is, the Army used to give us salt tablets for drill in the hot Florida sun where I live. We sweat -- a lot! We need a lot of salt down here.

Put out a salt block and watch animals. They know!

Finally, I cannot imagine eating a slice of watermelon without shaking plain ole When-It-Rains-It-Pours salt all over it.

[STORM6490MT]

i meant to say its a lot of snus to equal the salt in one can of soda.

I'm sorry, but I have to disappoint you.
200 ml (about one glass) of Pepsi-Cola Light contain 0.2 g of sodium[1], while a can of Göteborgs Rapé loose (45 g) contains 2.25 g of (kooking) salt[2].

The 2.25 g of salt in the loose are not just sodium but sodiumchloride actually, so to get the real amount of sodium alone in the loose we need to do some calculations:
Sodiumchloride weights 55.5 g per mole -> this means that the 2.25 g of salt per can equal 0.04 moles of sodiumchloride.
Now, sodium alone weights 23 g per mole which means that the 0.04 moles of sodiumchloride contain 0.04 moles x 23 g/mole = 0.9 g of sodium.

Conclusion: There are 0.2 g of sodium per glass of Pepsi versus 0.9 g of sodium in a can of snus what means that a can of snus contains more than 4 times the amount of sodium that's in a glass of pepsi.
But taking in consideration that a can of loose usually lasts several days while a bottle of Pepsi (about 1.5 g of sodium) only lasts one day, there is no reason to be concerned about the amount of salt in the snus.

[1] http://das-ist-drin.de/Pepsi-Cola-Pe...1500-ml--7092/
[2] http://www.gothiatek.com/templates/s...px?page_id=147

Read the post above this one. A can of Pepsi is 12 oz here... I will go figure out the amounts today as I am feeling better.

[aardvark]

Read the post above this one. A can of Pepsi is 12 oz here... I will go figure out the amounts today as I am feeling better.

Oops, I totally missed the 12 oz part in your post and somehow assumed that you were talking about one glass.
So 12 oz are about 350 ml then and that would contain 0.35 g of sodium.
I suggest we leave the maths and just say that one can of Pepsi has less sodium than a can of snus...

Hope you'll get well soon!

[STORM6490MT]

Read the post above this one. A can of Pepsi is 12 oz here... I will go figure out the amounts today as I am feeling better.

Oops, I totally missed the 12 oz part in your post and somehow assumed that you were talking about one glass.
So 12 oz are about 350 ml then and that would contain 0.35 g of sodium.
I suggest we leave the maths and just say that one can of Pepsi has less sodium than a can of snus...

Hope you'll get well soon!

Thanks man! I'm learning how to determine molecular weight and conversion of given grams into moles...

http://www.pepsiproductfacts.com/sodium.php#chart

pepsi lists their products in an 8 ounce serving size. a can is 12 oz so I multiplied the 20mg by 1.5. So, there is 30mg of absorbable sodium in once can of pepsi.

since we are on sodium and not salt or sodium chloride, how do we determine how many mg of sodium each can of snus has?

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:...ient=firefox-a

This MSDS shows lab/food grade Sodium Chloride has a molecular weight of 58.44g/mole.

Now I have to figure out the damn mole thing. Feel like a kid again.

[chainsnuser]

I don't think that molecule-weights, useful only for chemists, get us any further in discussing the medical impact of salt to the human body.

So, here is what I already learned in elementary school (back in the 70's): 2g are the MINIMUM amount of salt per day, that a human being needs to stay alive. One can of portions of a salty brand contains around 24 x 0.05g = 1.2g and one can lasts most of us 3 days or more.

Strangely, the German Wikipedia article about salt still states this simple mimimum-amount, while the English article seems to confuse table salt with arsenic, stating an endless list of "salt-related diseases":lol:, which is even more laughable than the bogus-smokeless-tobacco-articles that I've seen.
I guess this "anti-salt-bogus-propaganda" has killed more people, than we would imagine. Just read what happened to Dead Rabbit: http://www.snuson.com/viewtopic.php?p=13917#13917 and then imagine, what could happen to people who even consciously try to avoid salt because they believe some medical 'junk-advice'.

I absolutely understand everyone who has *real* medical reasons to be cautious and also everyone, who simply cannot stand the taste of (too much) salt, but otherwise I really can not see that the rather tiny amounts of salt from snus do matter.

Cheers!