Heat Pasturization products?

[Bigblue1]

Again, I find that article by Larry very suspect. I mean, again no sources quoted. Also "It is very important to watch expiration dates" Yeah it is, to a snus seller who wants to sell more snus.

[Christi]

Please note that this subject has already been explored http://www.snuson.com/forum/showthre...ight=chadizzy1

Thank you pris, that cleared up what I was interested in.

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

Everyone has their own preferences, so what you use is obviously up to you. If you are uncomfortable using gn snus don't, use SM, V2, and Gotlands products, they are all steam cured. I agree with many here that you would be doing yourself a disservice to not try GN products, and also fully believe that their products are no worse for you than the other makers. They are a company that really cares about their consumers and I fully believe they would steam cure their products if they found that it posed any higher risk than the others, and I'm sure they did much research before deciding on their method.

I will also echo what others have said, you really need to read your sources information carefully. A dependable source may say this and that has been found, but don't quote where it was found. Their is a lot of BS about tobacco products floating around out there. Also just freeze the snus that you aren't currently using and your concern goes away.

You have taken all what i wanted to say ))))))

[Frosted]

I've been doing a lot of amateur research since GN came here. A lot about Larry came up.

His articles came across as venomous and vindictive, a reason for which is probably known only to Larry. It was very odd. It does make me dislike snuscentral intensely.

[ABW]

Look.. I am not knocking anyone here but just responding to the onslaught of attacks to anyone ( beatlesk) mentioning anything that has to do with their preference for a product that is steam pasteurized. It's weird.. Anyone says anything to do with it and everyone just goes on the attack..

I have 3 cans of Oden's the fridge right now and will have another roll in my next order.. Jezzzzz...

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

Again, I find that article by Larry very suspect. I mean, again no sources quoted. Also "It is very important to watch expiration dates" Yeah it is, to a snus seller who wants to sell more snus.

Bigblu Larry had warning on his website on our products hahahahahaha when we showed him that our produkts are lower then Gotiatek which we belive his standard he was forced to take away that warning hahahaahah

[BrianC]

You have taken all what i wanted to say ))))))

Oops!!

[Frosted]

Bigblu Larry had warning on his website on our products hahahahahaha when we showed him that our produkts are lower then Gotiatek which we belive his standard he was forced to take away that warning hahahaahah

I saw that too.

[Bigblue1]

My Dear brother What Do you know about produktion of Swedish snus?

Most snus companies do use steam pasteurization with GN being one of the few exceptions but even so the TSNA levels in non-steam snus varieties are far below those of dip, and of course wildly lower than any smoked product, so any concerns over this issue are basically unwarranted.

The curing method of tobacco is FAR more important than the preparation. The question is "air cured or not", and AFAIK, all snus makers use air cured tobacco.

To answer your question, I suspect Gellivare Snus uses fermentation rather than steam pasteurization due to their very small size, but I'm only guessing. I have no issues using their, or GN's snus, and you shouldn't either.

I understand your concern even if as it appears no one else cares. I was sold on the Idea of steam pasteurization not only because of the low TSNA level initially but because when that process is used the TSNA's don't climb as it sits on the shelf. To answer your question I believe that In addition to GN Pioneer Snuff which is made in Laos is also not steam pasteurized. I am not saying anyone else should care if it is or not but I do and it looks like you do as well.

Then use nasal snuff.

Or e-cigs

Nasal snuff does get me stuffed up at times. But I do believe it is considered the safest tobacco usage method.

In my opinion fermented tobacco tastes better.

Copenhagen is not pulled from the shelves every 30 days.
I bought a can of Copenhagen, 3 weeks ago, still have it, unopened, and it says on the bottom "Sell by Sept 18 2011".

I agree. There are a lot of claims being made here that are going to require some backup.

Here are the responses to Beatlesk from the first page. Pray tell, where are the attacks?

[timholian]

Bigblu Larry had warning on his website on our products hahahahahaha when we showed him that our produkts are lower then Gotiatek which we belive his standard he was forced to take away that warning hahahaahah

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHhahah good for you GN!

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

Is GN the only one who uses heat pasturization? I want to make sure what i'm using is only steam products.

Thanks.

Now my freand i want to explain you few things
1 No producer in the world wants to harm his customer ))
2 There are a many many many difarent type of tobaccos on planet erth growing some are good some are bed )))
continue...

[Frosted]

ABW, I haven't seen anybody on the attack on this thread. All that was asked was that if you are going to state that heat pasteurised snus is less safe, to name your scources.

[ABW]

Here are the responses to Beatlesk from the first page. Pray tell, where are the attacks?

You know what I mean bigblue... This is deteriorating into nonsense.. To each there own..

[ABW]

ABW, I haven't seen anybody on the attack on this thread. All that was asked was that if you are going to state that heat pasteurised snus is less safe, to name your scources.

And I did...

[Frosted]

And I did...

So where's the 'attack'??