NRT doesn't help quitters?

[Ansel]

in the news today:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/10/he...kers-quit.html

[Fazer]

NRT didn't help me one bit, well, it did give me night sweats and insomnia, when i did get to sleep i got really bad nightmares, and i had to pay for it as well. Then, my swedish mate gave me a can of snus and the rest is history. One part of the page said “there are millions of smokers out there desperate to quit, and it would be a tragedy if they felt, because of one study, that this option is ineffective.” So, that's millions of potential customers for snus

[Slidingblues]

When I smoked all nicotine gum was good for was holding me over until I was able to grab a smoke.

[AllanH]

Big Pharma nicotine products are absolutely useless and don't even want to get started about their Chantix/Champix suicide pill.

[spirit72]

Tried the patch for a week way back in the day, mid 1990's when they first went 'over the counter' in the US. The dreams talked me out of them.

Tried gum and lozenges as they came out. They worked, but only temporarily. They're just not the same. What they succeeded most at, though, was proving to me that I didn't smoke cigarettes because I liked them, I smoked them because I was addicted to them.

[truthwolf1]

I am only going from bad memory but I think there were studies that stated NRT products from BIG PHARMA had a 2-10 percent rate of success and SNUS was at a solid 30%.

Although the addiction to nicotine is still there the big point is no more smoke!!!

[spirit72]

I am only going from bad memory but I think there were studies that stated NRT products from BIG PHARMA had a 2-10 percent rate of success and SNUS was at a solid 30%.

Although the addiction to nicotine is still there the big point is no more smoke!!!

True. Especially when nicotine itself is not a known carcinogen, or in fact a known health risk of any type.

[truthwolf1]

True. Especially when nicotine itself is not a known carcinogen, or in fact a known health risk of any type.

Yup! It is healthier to be a user of snus verses any light smoker.

[BadAxe]

True. Especially when nicotine itself is not a known carcinogen, or in fact a known health risk of any type.

Well its not a carcinogen, but nicotine is a health risk.

[spirit72]

Well its not a carcinogen, but nicotine is a health risk.

Really? I can't see that it is, so long as a user doesn't have a cardiovascular or other condition that might be exacerbated by nicotine----in which case they should probably avoid all stimulants. Otherwise, it seems to me that nicotine is pharmacologically similar to caffeine, just stronger and much more addictive.

[BadAxe]

Really? I can't see that it is, so long as a user doesn't have a cardiovascular or other condition that might be exacerbated by nicotine----in which case they should probably avoid all stimulants. Otherwise, it seems to me that nicotine is pharmacologically similar to caffeine, just stronger and much more addictive.

"Although many of the health problems associated with tobacco products are related to smoking and other chemicals in the tobacco, nicotine is associated with a number of health problems when taken chronically. Nicotine causes vasoconstriction, increased heart rate, and increased blood pressure. Over time, these effects are associated with increase risk of cardio vascular problems (heart attack), poor blood circulation in the extremities, and stroke."

I love my SNUS, and I don't mind my addiction to nicotine. But I am not a fool who believes nicotine is not a health risk. (Not calling you a fool). I will accept the risk considering it enabled me to give up my much worse 2 pack a day smoking habit. But there are health risks involved with digesting nicotine.

[truthwolf1]

some more info on nicotine and cardio.

http://www.treatobacco.net/en/page_75.php

[Ansel]

"Only people who sleep [all the time] don't take risks" - said snusser Ingvar Kamprad.

[muddyfunkstar]

The only time I ever used nicotine gum was on the second long haul flight I ever took, because of the state I was in after the first. It didn't really help that much.

[Crow]

I am only going from bad memory but I think there were studies that stated NRT products from BIG PHARMA had a 2-10 percent rate of success and SNUS was at a solid 30%.

Sounds like you could use some nicotine patches...

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012...-loss-in-study