snus didnt help with my depression while smoking did

[SnuserSnuffer]

Hello there

I havent posted in awhile. Last time I posted I was having a hard time with snus.

I ended up saying goodbye to snus and returning to smoking. Ive had a lifetime of depression, its always been there.

Smoking has pretty much always helped with it. And it did again. I was doing fine with snus for awhile, really. Like a year. But I was drinking a ton of coffee.

Anyways basically a month and a half ago I just wanted to cut down on smoking. I started smoking a cig in the morning followed by 2 general snuses, maybe another cig an hour later.. then smoked at night but kept pushing my "smoking start time" later and later. I made it to 5:30.

At that point I just needed more nicotine.

But now after like a month and a half im trying to do 4 snuses a day. I like tobacco but also like not feeling so stimulated all day.

But now my depression is starting to surface. I tried going back to smoking as much as i wanted all day. But I felt too wired and kept throwing it away.

I have no idea why Im writing this. Im probably going to go back to being a daily smoker soon. Im going to just get readdicted to it. I like feeling like I have more control over tobacco and not using it all day since I feel calmer. However i dont want to take antidepressants and i dont want depression.

Anyways good luck to everyone in their tobacco journeys!

[trebli]

"There's a cheap, common, and mostly safe drug, in daily use for centuries by hundreds of millions of people, that only lately has been investigated for its therapeutic potential for a long list of common ills. The list includes Alzheimer disease, Parkinson disease, depression and anxiety, schizophrenia, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder ..."


The other day one of the members posted this link. You might enjoy it.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC526783/

[OregonNative]

I know you said you don't want to be on anti-depressants, but maybe you have some sort of chemical imbalance. I know anti-depressants are far from an ideal situation; but you may find it helps you. I hope I'm not coming across as rude, I've dealt with depression issues my entire life, and I've strongly considered anti-depressants despite wanting to avoid them. I have the same issues; luckily snus has been able to work for me. If you're dead set on avoiding anti-depressants (who could blame you), maybe you could consider a lower nicotine snus?

Best of luck, I hope you find something that works for you. If you're dead set on smoking, all the power to you. I'm not some anti-smoking nazi. You're an adult, you know the risks, you make your own choices.

Cheers bro

[heders]

Man, ditch the coffee. Caffeine for some people is a devilish drug, and can very well be the single cause to your depression. If you haven't tried quitting it yet, then do it before starting smoking again. You can cut down gradually for a few weeks to not get any withdrawal symptoms, or do it cold turkey (you will feel like crap for a few days though probably).

If you have been drinking coffee like a fiend since you first told us about your problems then I put all my money that it is the cause. I have trouble with caffeine and snus myself, and while I don't get depressed, I can get pretty messed up after 3-4 mugs together with snus all day (for some reason).

Also, have you tried vaping? Might be worth looking in to if you like smoking. I've noticed the effects from vaping is much milder than from snus as well, even at higher nicotine.

[SnuserSnuffer]

I really need to change my name as I only tried snuff a few times.

I didnt really expect to get replies. Typing this on phone

Anyways I already licked my caffeine addiction almost 2 months ago. So its not that.

Im back to smoking at present. Its alright.

I really wish snus worked for me. It kinda did for awhile.

Oh well.

[SnuserSnuffer]

I did try vaping. Not a fan!

[Premium Parrots]

Theres not much I can suggest because most all alternatives have already been posted. Hang in there and stay with us for support mate. You never know when someone that's been in you shoes will come along and post the answer that will work for you.


The only thing I could think of other than the other suggestions is could it be the typical "Winter depression" that a lot of people experience? That's kind of a wild guess tho.

Did you give vaping tobacco in an herb vaporizer a try? I mean taking tobacco and putting it in a chamber, heating it and inhaling the vapor. That wouldn't be so hazardous to your health. Also, with the shit ton amount of ejuice and devices marketed I would think you could find one that would fit the bill.

Good luck

[NeonMouse]

What's your diet like? Make sure your getting all the vits and omegas you need. Exercise and apparently cold showers/baths can helpwith your mood and general health.

Maybe it's just a blip that you are feeling down with the snus rather then the Cigs

one thing that may help, when you smoke you take deep breaths, it may be the deep methodical breathing that is giving you the break in the depression. Perhaps a mini snus and deep breathing.

On the supplement route, ginseng, ginkgo, 5htp, St John's wart all best serotonin which you might want to look into just be careful of interactions and side effects like high blood pressure or lbp.

[SnuserSnuffer]

Thanks.

I think its just the beta carbolines in cig smoke that help.

Im going to keep trying with snus.

[whalen]

Smoking made me pretty happy too, until it started killing me, that made me sad.

[whalen]

Snus doesn't try to kill me, so that makes me happy!

[SnuserSnuffer]

I smoke additive free. Still smoke, but Im ok with it for now.

I like snus, but its almost, almost.. a waste of my time.

I say that because whats a nicotine wired suicidal person worth lol.

The beta carbolines in cig smoke clear it right up.

Thx for all the great responses. I wish snus worked better for me.

I have been on antidepressants many many years ago which worked well at times but trying to get off got brain/body zaps. Weird stuff.

I guess Im just a smoker. I love snus I may still use it sometimes but I cant use it exclusively.

Peace

[SnuserSnuffer]

Yeah snus is great health wise. But ive heard stuff on the net by well researched intelligent people, like nitelight, who say cig smoke can be beneficial. The longest living people smoked. The top two longest living, maybe top three, smoked.

[rickcharles606]

Snus doesn't try to kill me, so that makes me happy!

Smoking always made me happy, I suppose...but I HATED how it made me feel physically and also how I smelled. Not to mention all the pesky data that PROVES beyond a shadow of doubt that smoking cigarettes kills us. Now, I feel that way about snus...it makes me happy and I know it's not killing me :-)

[Andy105]

I smoked for a long time, as well. When you're young, you barely notice any detrimental effects, smoking kills you so slowly. Keep smoking and you'll wish that you didn't later in life. Breathing easier since I quit, but not like I would if I never smoked at all. Quit.
Snus makes me happy, too.