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  • airwoodstock
    Banned Users
    • Aug 2008
    • 340

    New tobacco product alarms some health officials

    More confusion with Camel SNUS and Swedish Snus!!! Sorry, it's a long article and, I don't know how to attach a link!

    MORGANTOWN, West Virginia - They're discreet, flavorful and come in cute tin boxes with names like "frost" and "spice." And now a leading U.S. tobacco company is hoping that Camel Snus will become a hit with tobacco lovers tired of being forced outside for a smoke.

    But convincing health officials and smokers that they are worth a try may take some work.

    Popular for decades in Sweden, where it was invented, snus has been banned in every other European Union nation since 2004 over concerns about carcinogens.

    But smokeless tobacco is legal in the U.S., where there are two schools of thought: Some researchers suggest the lower risk of lung cancer makes snus an attractive alternative to smoking, while others fear an increase in problems including mouth lesions or pancreatic cancer.

    Snus - Swedish for tobacco, rhymes with "noose" - is a tiny, tea bag-like pouch of steam-pasteurized, smokeless tobacco to tuck between the cheek and gum. Aromatic to the user and undetectable to anyone else, it promises a hit of nicotine without the messy spitting associated with chewing tobacco. Just swallow the juice.

    "I think I'd rather throw up in my mouth," says Ethan Flint, an 18-year-old West Virginia University student, emerging from a convenience store with a pack of Winstons and a coupon for free Camel Snus. "I'd rather not swallow anything like that."

    Reynolds America Inc., the No. 2 U.S. tobacco company, can also expect resistance from the public health community. Experts wonder whether snus will help wean people off cigarettes and snuff, or just foster a second addiction. While snus has been around, it has not been prominent in the U.S.

    "I think we're all holding our breath in terms of what's going to be coming down the pike," says Dorothy Hatsukami, director of the Tobacco Use Research Center at the University of Minnesota. "There's not much known about these products - what's in these products, how they're going to be used, who's going to be using them and what the effects of that use will be. ... Will it create more harm or less harm?"

    Reynolds is confident its new product will find a following. It launched Camel Snus in Austin, Texas, and Portland, Oregon, in 2006, and has since expanded to test markets nationwide, with customers in nearly every state. Early next year, it's taking snus national with a marketing blitz that spokesman David Howard says will include direct mail, print and Web advertising, and point-of-sale promotions.

    The American Cancer Society supports any tool that helps smokers quit. "But we don't have any good scientific evidence that snus is one of those tools," said Tom Glynn, director of cancer science and trends.

    "If all smokers switched to snus tomorrow, in a few years we'd certainly see less heart disease, less lung disease and fewer cancers," he said. "But there's no evidence that smokers can switch and stay switched."

    Prevention officials already have their work cut out for them in West Virginia, which has the third-highest adult smoking rate in the U.S. at nearly 27 percent and the highest rate of "spit" or chewing tobacco use at 16 percent.

    "The industry is brilliant, and whatever they want to outspend us by - $1 million, $10 million, $100 million - they can do it," said Bruce Adkins of the state Division of Tobacco Prevention.

    To sustain its current level of sales and combat tobacco-related deaths, Adkins says, the industry must find 4,000 "replacement smokers" a year in West Virginia alone.

    U.S. tobacco companies developed snus in response to both declining cigarette sales and consumer demand. With more public bans on puffing, they say smokers need socially acceptable alternatives.

    Danny Wolfe, a 38-year-old computer draftsman, gave up regular spit tobacco and has been using Copenhagen tobacco pouches for several years. He spits out the juice; it gives him heartburn.

    "It's the same product, just packaged differently. It doesn't get in your teeth. It doesn't have the mess," says Wolfe, who was sick of smoking outside his Morgantown office. "You're not quitting anything. You're replacing."

    Snus is also popular with hunters, who try to avoid scent detection by their prey, and with coal miners, who work in underground mines where the smallest spark can trigger an explosion.

    At least two tobacco companies besides Reynolds are also test-marketing snus.

    "There's no secondhand smoke. There's no spitting. We see it as a win-win," says Howard, the Reynolds spokesman. "It's also in line with company strategy. We're moving toward becoming a total tobacco company."

    Reynolds is even developing dissolvable tobacco strips, orbs and sticks that it will start test-marketing early next year in Portland, Indianapolis and Columbus, Ohio.

    Though "very appealing" in form and flavor, Hatsukami also finds those products worrisome.

    Researchers have little information about nicotine absorption and toxicity for any of the new products, she says, and there's too little data on snus to make per-dose comparisons to cigarettes or spit tobacco.

    Still, Camel Snus recently tested by WVU contained at least two carcinogens.

    "It's not like chewing gum," warns Robert Anderson, deputy director of West Virginia University's Prevention Research Center. "This product is not a safe alternative to cigarettes."

    And because its use is easy to conceal, WVU researcher Cindy Tworek worries children could suck on the pouches in front of oblivious parents or teachers. The brightly colored tins seem designed to attract both female and young users, she says.

    The same age restrictions that apply to other forms of tobacco also apply to sales of snus, although they vary from state to state.

    Tworek has surveyed more than 600 college students in the Morgantown test market and will release her conclusions next year on whether Reynolds' marketing efforts work.

    Flint, the teenage smoker, suspects they do.

    "It looks fun, actually," he said of the bright blue camel logo. "As a little kid, I'd probably buy this just because it looks cool. But I know better than that, and I'd rather choke to death."

    Howard denies suggestions that Reynolds targets underage users. He says Camel Snus is selling best among adult male smokers and moist snuff users.

    "It didn't quite get as much consideration among female adult smokers just because it's different," he concedes. "They're a little more hesitant. But obviously we think that with continued communication with all adult smokers, they'll come to try it."

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    On the Net:

    W.Va. Division of Tobacco Prevention: http://www.wvdtp.org/

    Reynolds: http://www.reynoldsamerican.com/
  • spirit72
    Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 1013

    #2
    Re: New tobacco product alarms some health officials

    "Popular for decades in Sweden, where it was invented"

    ...Can I get an LOL?

    Snus - Swedish for tobacco, rhymes with "noose"

    Wow! "Snus" means "Tobacco"?

    Interesting choice of rhymes, too....

    "I think I'd rather throw up in my mouth," says Ethan Flint, an 18-year-old West Virginia University student, emerging from a convenience store with a pack of Winstons and a coupon for free Camel Snus. "I'd rather not swallow anything like that."

    But he's OK with lighting it on fire and breathing the smoke.

    ....Kids.

    West Virginia, which has the third-highest adult smoking rate in the U.S. at nearly 27 percent and the highest rate of "spit" or chewing tobacco use at 16 percent.

    See? There's that word again.

    The more of these articles I see, it seems that they all follow the same general script.


    "The industry is brilliant, and whatever they want to outspend us by - $1 million, $10 million, $100 million - they can do it," said Bruce Adkins of the state Division of Tobacco Prevention.

    See what I mean? Super-Genius gets 2 articles in one day.

    Defense rests.


    "It looks fun, actually," he said of the bright blue camel logo. "As a little kid, I'd probably buy this just because it looks cool. But I know better than that, and I'd rather choke to death."

    ....Famous Last Words.

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    • airwoodstock
      Banned Users
      • Aug 2008
      • 340

      #3
      Re: New tobacco product alarms some health officials

      Originally posted by spirit72
      "I think I'd rather throw up in my mouth," says Ethan Flint, an 18-year-old West Virginia University student, emerging from a convenience store with a pack of Winstons and a coupon for free Camel Snus. "I'd rather not swallow anything like that."

      But he's OK with lighting it on fire and breathing the smoke.

      ....Kids.
      I was thinking the same thing spirit!! But, I'll betcha at the next Frat party, he'll throw a few in and, smoke a half a pack of those Winstons. After an hour of hard partying and the above mixture......He'll really know what "throwing up in his mouth" means!!! :twisted:

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      • holnrew
        Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 613

        #4
        It was banned in the EU in 1992, not 2004. Before Sweden was even a member. If they can't get a fact like that correct, and others pointed out by spirit, how can you trust what else they say is accurate?

        And why the **** should somebody not use tobacco? They're adults and can do what they like to their body. The Camel snus tins don't look any more appealing to kids than the cigarette packs.

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        • mercvrivs
          Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 484

          #5
          I think that wine is being marketed to kids because it looks like grape juice.

          I think that condoms are marketed to kids because their packaging looks like candy wrappers.

          New cars are marketed to kids and women because they have bright colors.

          Antifreeze too. It's neon green like Kool-Aid.

          I have a hammer with a blue handle. I guess a five year old would like that.

          Certainly, bright colors aren't attractive to all humans. It couldn't be that some strange and uncanny process of natural selection has made it so that humans tend to be attracted to bright and colorful things conducive to their survival. I mean, adult humans living as hunters and gatherers would never find it biologically advantageous to be attracted by the brilliant yellow of the banana, the hues of maize, the red of a ripe strawberry.


          And how many adults would honestly prefer to behold a sunset when they could stare at a pile of nondescript mud-caked rocks?

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          • deebocools
            Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 661

            #6
            they often use the same form of the "bright colors" argument about flavors. That's why there aren't candy flavored cigarettes; they'd appeal to kids.

            because as we all know, adults wake up and suck on old tire instead of a donut, and drink tar instead of orange juice. everyone loves flavors, colors, and fun.

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            • aj01
              Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 149

              #7
              snus/health

              "I think we're all holding our breath in terms of what's going to be coming down the pike," says Dorothy Hatsukami, director of the Tobacco Use Research Center at the University of Minnesota. "There's not much known about these products - what's in these products, how they're going to be used, who's going to be using them and what the effects of that use will be. ... Will it create more harm or less harm?"

              What kind of "Tobacco Use Research Center" doesn't know about snus? That's absolutely pathetic. Their either funded by Philip Morris, hence the lack of commitment to one side or the other, or they are morons.

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              • chainsnuser
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 1388

                #8
                Re: snus/health

                Originally posted by aj01
                What kind of "Tobacco Use Research Center" doesn't know about snus? That's absolutely pathetic.
                Agreed! But I guess they know quite well about snus, they only want to cast snus into doubt, as something "freaky".

                They're not morons, just liars or fairytale-tellers, so to say!

                Not only children get fed with fairytales (Gotthold Ephraim Lessing) ... tobacco-users also... and voters...and consumers ...

                But yeah, I understand politicians and marketing-professionals, but when scientists try to feed other people with fairytales and nonsense, then it's indeed a pathetic kind of behaviour.

                Cheers!

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