Redman Chew

[Faethwur]

So I got some Redman Chew because it looked real interesting and I always wanted to try some. I have to say it's quite good, and nice to know its a SM product as well in a way. However it's not as easy to get information on it regarding TSNAs and such as it is with snus since this is a snus forum. Any idea how much it is with this product? I recently looked at the ratings of which products are the most dangerous in all of your opinions and chew didn't seem too bad.

I was also looking online and came upon a page about this guy who lost his jaw and such because he chewed. I heard most smokeless products are getting WAY better nowadays, and these guys that lose their jaws and such go through like packs a day with the old fashioned stuff right? I am just worried and I would appreciate anyones opinion. Happy Holidays!!

[Norwester]

Heres a link to a chart I found. If this is right it looks like Redman is pretty low.
http://crobm.iadrjournals.org/cgi/co...ll/15/5/252/T2

[snusjus]

The TSNA levels in American smokeless tobacco are substantially lower than in the past; Red Man chew has levels in the 1.8 range, which is somewhat higher than snus, but not that much higher.

[luckysealy]

i looked at the chart that was linked. the tsna levels for red seal and bruton dry snuff are really high. the interesting thing is i knew a lot of alder women who used it all their lives. none of them that i knew died from cacer or anything relating to the snuff.

[Faethwur]

Man I feel like I dumas, I saw this chart many times and I forgot that Redman was under Chew in this one. It's surprising actually to see in this chart total TSNAs for some of the chew is lower than the snus that is presented in this study actually.

Also, I do remember seeing how high the TSNAs in dry snuff, seems pretty crazy. And on that note even the TSNAs in cigarettes are pretty low in this chart, but in some other studies I've read they were like 1000 instead of only 6. So it really makes me think that the measurement of nitrosamines is not an exact science yet, so going with user experience is probably the better choice here. Charts do still help though =) Thanks!

[snusjus]

Man I feel like I dumas, I saw this chart many times and I forgot that Redman was under Chew in this one. It's surprising actually to see in this chart total TSNAs for some of the chew is lower than the snus that is presented in this study actually.

Also, I do remember seeing how high the TSNAs in dry snuff, seems pretty crazy. And on that note even the TSNAs in cigarettes are pretty low in this chart, but in some other studies I've read they were like 1000 instead of only 6. So it really makes me think that the measurement of nitrosamines is not an exact science yet, so going with user experience is probably the better choice here. Charts do still help though =) Thanks!

The levels of TSNAs in unburned cigarette tobacco is pretty low, but when the leaf is ignited, the chemical reaction caused by combustion releases a plethora of cancer causing chemicals (TSNAs), which leads to levels being in the 1000's, while smokeless tobacco is never ignited, thus the TSNA level is constant.

[mercvrivs]

Not to mention the cardiovascular and neurological problems associated with O2 depletion and CO ingestion.