W. Virginia bill to ban dissolvable tobacco

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  • darkwing
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    • Oct 2007
    • 415

    W. Virginia bill to ban dissolvable tobacco

    West Virginia Gazette:


    April 1, 2009
    Bill would bar sales of dissolvable tobacco
    In 2007, public health officials in West Virginia warned consumers about "snus," ground tobacco packaged in a teabag-like pouch. Now, some lawmakers want to draw more attention to the growing variety of smokeless tobacco products.
    By Alison Knezevich
    Staff writer
    CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- In 2007, public health officials in West Virginia warned consumers about "snus," ground tobacco packaged in a teabag-like pouch. Now, some lawmakers want to draw more attention to the growing variety of smokeless tobacco products.

    A bill approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee on Wednesday would bar the sale of "dissolvable tobacco products" in West Virginia.

    Sen. Mike Oliverio, D-Monongalia, said it was highly unlikely the bill would pass this late in the legislative session. But he introduced it to start a discussion about the increasing use of smokeless tobacco products among teens, he said.

    "I just thought we should start a public debate," he said.

    Earlier this week, members of the teen anti-tobacco group Raze visited the Capitol for Tobacco Free Day, he said. Students from Oliverio's district told him about new dissolvable tobacco products, which take the form of dissolvable sticks, strips, and tablets.

    The kids said some teens use the smokeless tobacco products while sitting in class, Oliverio said.

    "It's scary stuff out there," he said.

    One of the newest products are Camel Orbs, dissolvable tobacco tablets packaged like mints. They hit the shelves in January.

    So far, the product is only available in three U.S. cities, said R.J Reynolds Tobacco Co. spokesman David Howard: Columbus, Ohio; Portland, Ore. and Indianapolis.

    They are made of finely milled tobacco and food-grade binders, he said.

    "These types of products, we believe, meet the needs of adult smokers," Howard said.

    Howard said such products let smokers use tobacco in places where smoking is prohibited - like restaurants and offices - while "meeting societal expectations."

    "There's no spitting required," he said. "They don't have secondhand smoke. And they fully dissolve, so there's no litter."

    When asked about health risks, Howard said he wasn't aware of any studies specific to dissolvable tobacco.

    "We are not making any health claims," he said. "No tobacco product has been shown to be without risk."

    Dissolvable tobacco products are age-restricted, sold behind counters and contain warning labels, he said.

    "It's clear that these are tobacco products," he said. "And they are marketed as such, and sold as such."

    Reach Alison Knezevich at alis...@wvgazette.com or 304-348-1240.
  • ShaulWolf
    Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 495

    #2
    Are they talking about snus or things like Oliver Twist? As far as I knew portioned snus wasn't totally dissolvable, unless they meant it could be biodegraded. I'm sure you could swallow the portion if you wanted, but I don't think that would be pleasant...

    This really looks like people trying to cause a scare over something new with tobacco and trying to find a way to tax the bloody piss out of it.

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    • RobsanX
      Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 2030

      #3
      These are new products by Camel. They come in pellets, toothpick like sticks, and strips like the breath strips. They are all completely dissolvable...

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      • Premium Parrots
        Super Moderators
        • Feb 2008
        • 9759

        #4
        time to form a lynching party and go after Camel. Their fancy tins, and now tet disolvable products are going to **** up either our choice to use snus or cause the government to tax the hell out of it.
        Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......





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        • Skimo
          Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 204

          #5
          nooo not after I just found snus... DAMNIT!

          when I was in highschool plently of kids dipped and smoked, none of whom bought tobacco because it was "pretty".

          I started working when I was young and started smoking when I was young. I don't really like seeing kids smoke, it's addictive and harmful,

          What do you do about the fat kids out there who can't get laid, develope image complexs, and are generally to lazy to hit the gym up?
          tobacco is the very least of our national worries right now, behind obeisity and stupidity.

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          • ShaulWolf
            Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 495

            #6
            Amen to that, Skimo. I was well on my way to getting obese but caught myself in time and became a gym rat. Was still in my weight range, but the weight I was gaining per year was getting bad. Unfortunately, I see a lot of others who don't catch themselves, catch themselves too late and don't care, or just plain don't care at all. Tobacco isn't nearly as big as a problem as it was right now compared to other things. Or, at the very least, smokeless tobacco like snus.

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            • Daidone
              Member
              • Aug 2008
              • 17

              #7
              Ban dissolvables "FOR THE CHILDREN!" :roll:.

              So what if teenagers will use them? It's already illegal for them to smoke cigarettes(or buy tobacco period), but that sure as hell doesn't stop them. Pot is illegal, but we sure seemed to get it just fine when I was in high school, along with every other substance known to induce an altered state of mind.

              Shit happens, there is no way to protect the children from the evils of the world but to prepare them to make decisions for themselves.

              Though I guess personal responsibility is a little out of style these days...

              /rant

              and now I'm off to write a nasty letter to these clowns.

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              • ShaulWolf
                Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 495

                #8
                Oh Christ, don't get me started on personal responsibility... It's never their fault they made dumb decisions, despite all the warnings and whatever else has been preached about the horrible evils of [insert substance here].

                Sex is bad. Don't have sex. Nope, that didn't work. Plenty of teen pregnancies still, even if numbers are falling.

                Pot/X/Meth/Coke/Crack/etc is bad, don't do it. How's that working out for you?

                Don't drink to excess. Fail.

                Got another, but that'd take far too long to type.

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                • Lanci3250
                  Banned Users
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 48

                  #9
                  Thank god we have big brother to watch out for us. I say scrap every single piece of legislation "for the public good"

                  The beauty of a "free" country is that you are "free" to make your own choices!

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                  • deebocools
                    Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 661

                    #10
                    and from the other perspective, when drug use and abuse was lowest in the US was before the introduction of the D.A.R.E. program in public schools.

                    I remember I had no intention of doing any drug, until a D.A.R.E. program book was handed to me in 6th grade with an in-depth description of the euphoria-inducing effects of them.

                    not to mention that the rampant xenophobia in the program put me at odds with it. There were actually passages like "You enter a party, and you don't know anyone there" and the "right thing" to do was to leave! what the hell is that? it made non-drug users seem like creepy shut-ins and drug users cosmopolitan socialites.

                    ok, end rant. Drug policy, legal and otherwise, needs to be re-written by being burned. Let the culture dictate peoples choices, like it always did anyway.

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