Snus and Tooth Loss

[pangloss]

Ah... Thank you for correcting me Spirit. I was misinformed about fiberglass in dip.

Also thank you for clarification on warning label requirements in US.

[rickcharles606]

P.S. I went ahead and answered yes in the poll too, just to even things out a bit, and so rickcharles wouldn't be all alone.

Thanks bro, it was gettin lonely out here...lol

[Snusages]

My girlfriend's uncle has been using American dip since he was 18 at a moderate pace (twice a day usually) and he is now 40. He has no serious tooth or gum problems that I know of. His gums don't look like they are all too receded either. I think the majority of the negative things said about smokeless is shear propaganda and fear mongering. While most likely (and scientifically proven) it does cause greater risks, it doesn't appear to be anywhere near the terrible evil people make it out to be. And even more so, Snus appears to cause significantly less problems.

Anyone else tired of the one or two schmoes that are frequently touted around after having their jaws removed? Who knows how much those guys used every day. They probably went through multiple cans a day. Any half-intelligent person will recognize that keeping tobacco constantly in your mouth all day long, every day for 50 years would cause some serious issues.

EDIT: Didn't realize I posted in this thread already. By the way, thanks pangloss for the info!

[Roo]

I worked with a guy in a warehouse in highschool who had dipped constantly for 20 years and his mouth was a total horror show. Major tooth loss, black, rotting gums, the works. But that's dip. I am not aware of problems from snusing. In my one year I have noticed gum recession, but I had those problems long before snus. It has made it worse, though, IMHO. But my teeth are perfectly healthy.

[pangloss]

I worked with a guy in a warehouse in highschool who had dipped constantly for 20 years and his mouth was a total horror show. Major tooth loss, black, rotting gums, the works. But that's dip. I am not aware of problems from snusing. In my one year I have noticed gum recession, but I had those problems long before snus. It has made it worse, though, IMHO. But my teeth are perfectly healthy.

if you don't mind commenting on your dental history, how bad is your gum recession now after the snus? do you have loose teeth?

Did you have any oral insults or predispositions to gum recession before snus or was it something that just happened to you with time?


P.S. Glad we're on friendly terms again

[Roo]

Hey pangloss, my overall oral health is actually quite good and I have absolutely no loose teeth or fear of losing teeth. In the past, long before snus, my dentist has commented on mild gum recession since I was young. It kind of runs in the family I guess. But I never get cavities, never had any oral health problems at all really. I just do notice that snus is not helping gum recession, but that's when I take a close look. It is not noticeable to others. I would definitely expect some very mild recession from snus, but that's just me, and my experience. Other people who have more resistant gums have probably never noticed anything, in fact, as the links sage posted (I assume -- didn't look) suggest, others have reported that the dentist says their gums look better than ever.

So I wouldn't worry too much about recession, and certainly not about tooth LOSS, but IMO I would expect a certain degree of negative effects associated with keeping snus against your gums most of the day. Hope that helps. Cheers.

[justintempler]

Keep this in mind if you drink coffee or tea sweetened with sugar you may be soaking that portion of snus in your mouth with sugar. So even though there is no sugar in snus. Snus + coffee + sugar may have a different effect?