Mayo Clinic: Snus is Smokeless and Bad!

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  • wa3zrm
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    • May 2009
    • 4436

    #1

    Mayo Clinic: Snus is Smokeless and Bad!

    Get the facts about chewing tobacco and other forms of smokeless tobacco. They're more harmful and addictive than you might think.

    By Mayo Clinic staff You can call chewing tobacco by whatever name you want — smokeless tobacco, spit tobacco, chew, snuff, pinch or dip — but don't call it harmless. Whether you use chewing tobacco or other types of smokeless tobacco because you like it or because you think smokeless is safer than cigarettes, be forewarned — chewing tobacco can cause serious health problems.
    Chewing tobacco and other forms of smokeless tobacco

    Chewing tobacco is a common type of smokeless tobacco. Smokeless tobacco products consist of tobacco or a tobacco blend that's chewed, sucked on or sniffed, rather than smoked.
    There are many types of smokeless tobacco products around the world. In the United States, the main types of smokeless tobacco are:
    • Chewing tobacco. This consists of loose tobacco leaves that are sweetened and packaged in pouches. You put a wad of the tobacco between your cheek and gum and hold it there, sometimes for hours at a time. It's also called chew and chaw. Usually you spit out the tobacco juices, but if you're more addicted, you tend to swallow some of the juices.
    • Plug. This is chewing tobacco that has been pressed into a brick shape, often with the help of syrup, such as molasses, which also sweetens the tobacco. You cut off or bite off a piece of the plug and hold it between your cheek and gum. You spit out the tobacco juices.
    • Twist. This is flavored chewing tobacco that has been braided and twisted into rope-like strands. You hold it between your cheek and gum and spit out the tobacco juices.
    • Snuff. This is finely ground or shredded tobacco leaves. It's available in dry or moist forms and is packaged in tins or tea bag-like pouches. A pinch of snuff is placed between the lower lip and gum or cheek and gum. Dry forms of snuff can be sniffed into the nose. Using snuff is also called dipping. You normally spit out the tobacco juices, but as with chewing tobacco, if you're more addicted you tend to swallow the juices instead.
    • Snus. Snus (pronounced snoos) is a newer smokeless, spitless tobacco product that originated in Sweden. It comes in a pouch that you stick between your upper lip and gum. You leave it there for about a half-hour without having to spit, then discard it.
    • Dissolvable tobacco products. These are pieces of compressed powdered tobacco, similar to small hard candies. They dissolve in your mouth, requiring no spitting of tobacco juices. They're sometimes called tobacco lozenges, but they're not the same as the nicotine lozenges used to help you quit smoking.

    While the available evidence shows that smokeless tobacco may be less dangerous than cigarettes are, long-term use of chewing tobacco and other smokeless tobacco products can cause serious health problems. That's because they can contain about 30 cancer-causing substances. Like cigarettes, smokeless tobacco also contains nicotine, which can cause you to become addicted. Here's a look at some of the health problems related to smokeless tobacco:
    Addiction
    Because smokeless tobacco contains nicotine, you can get addicted, just as you can with cigarettes and other tobacco products. Your body may actually absorb more nicotine from chewing tobacco or snuff than it does from a cigarette. Just as with smoking, withdrawal from smokeless tobacco causes signs and symptoms such as intense cravings, increased appetite, irritability and depressed mood. Also, over time, you develop a tolerance for the nicotine in chewing tobacco and other smokeless tobacco products, and you need more to feel the desired effects. This may lead you to dangerous habits — using brands with more nicotine, using more often, leaving chew in your mouth overnight and swallowing tobacco juices.
    Cancer
    Your risk of certain types of cancer increases if you use chewing tobacco or other types of smokeless tobacco. This includes esophageal cancer and various types of oral cancer, including cancers of your mouth, throat, cheek, gums, lips and tongue. Surgery to remove cancer from any of these areas can leave your jaw, chin, neck or face disfigured, and the cancer may be life-threatening. You also face increased risks related to pancreatic cancer and kidney cancer.
    Cavities
    Chewing tobacco and other forms of smokeless tobacco cause tooth decay. That's because chewing tobacco contains high amounts of sugar, which contributes to cavities. Chewing tobacco also contains coarse particles that can irritate your gums and scratch away at the enamel on your teeth, making your teeth more vulnerable to cavities.
    Gum disease
    The sugar and irritants in chewing tobacco and other forms of smokeless tobacco can cause your gums to pull away from your teeth in the area of your mouth where you place the chew. Over time you can develop gum disease (gingivitis), which can lead to periodontitis and tooth loss. And like cigarettes, chewing tobacco and other smokeless products can stain your teeth and cause bad breath.
    Heart disease
    Smokeless tobacco increases your heart rate and blood pressure. Some evidence suggests that long-term use of smokeless tobacco increases your risk of dying of certain types of heart disease and stroke.
    Precancerous mouth lesions
    Smokeless tobacco increases your risk of developing small white patches called leukoplakia (loo-ko-PLAY-kee-uh) inside your mouth where the chew is most often placed. These mouth lesions are precancerous — meaning that the lesions could one day become cancer. If you stop using smokeless tobacco products, the lesions usually go away within a few months.
    Quitting chewing tobacco and other forms of smokeless tobacco

    If you use chewing tobacco or other forms of smokeless tobacco, quit. Now that you know the dangers associated with it, you have extra motivation to stop using smokeless tobacco. And if you're trying to stop using cigarettes, don't switch to smokeless tobacco instead. While smokeless tobacco may be safer than cigarettes, smokeless tobacco hasn't been shown to help you stop smoking. In fact, you may end up using both cigarettes and smokeless tobacco.


    To stop using any tobacco product, start by talking to your doctor. Or talk to counselor by calling 1-800-QUIT-NOW (800-784-8669). Your doctor or counselor can guide you in creating a quit plan and choosing nicotine replacement products or medications to help ensure success.
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  • lxskllr
    Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 13435

    #2
    Yup, pretty typical. They mix enough facts in, so the fanciful information gets more credibility. I'd expect better from health professionals, but I know better :^S

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    • f. bandersnatch
      Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 725

      #3
      If you are going to tell me the risk of every oral tobacco product combined, of course its going to sound bad. It's just amazing to me that this type of activity is given any merit in the medical research field. I mean, the Mayo clinic is not gonna drop a "hamburgers are generally detrimental to your health" report on us any time soon, why do we need one for oral tobacco? Why not spend some time actually researching?

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      • PipenSnus
        Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 1038

        #4
        It's a strange sort of paradox, but doctors are extremely gullible, mostly because they're so arrogant they think they're immune to being fooled. And the pharmaceutical industry, which funds most of the research and makes very sure only the research studies that support their products see the light of day, is only too happy to keep feeding the doctors all the BS they can swallow.

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        • ladysnus
          Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 601

          #5
          oh noes, addicted? I had no idea..................

















          I could seriously care less that I'm addicted!

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          • texasmade
            Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 4159

            #6
            i don't see people trying to ban or outrageously tax potatoes, eggplants, and tomatoes...because you know...they have nicotine in them


            also can i call and say mean hateful things or sexual innuendos while talking about snus to them?

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            • WickedKitchen
              Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 2528

              #7
              This has nothing to do with the Mayo clinic but I didn't want to start a new thread.

              I took an anonymous health survey today (They had my phone number so I'm not sure how anonymous it was but that's besides the point) and they asked about smoking. Then they asked if I used chew, moist snuff, or snus. I never heard snus on one of those surveys before. I bet it'll be popping up on life insurance questionnaires too. It's too bad that snus is being lumped in with everything else.

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              • Langdell
                Member
                • Jun 2010
                • 255

                #8
                Originally posted by WickedKitchen View Post
                This has nothing to do with the Mayo clinic but I didn't want to start a new thread.

                I took an anonymous health survey today (They had my phone number so I'm not sure how anonymous it was but that's besides the point) and they asked about smoking. Then they asked if I used chew, moist snuff, or snus. I never heard snus on one of those surveys before. I bet it'll be popping up on life insurance questionnaires too. It's too bad that snus is being lumped in with everything else.
                Yeah, he lumping is bad. But it's neat to hear that snus is becoming familiar enough that it shows up in surveys like that.

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                • Bigblue1
                  Banned Users
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 3923

                  #9
                  I've been Afraid of this for awhile.... the more popular snus becomes the more tainted the info will become....... And the higher taxes will become, oh and that health insurance for sure, especially after "healthcare Reform" I don't know gonna go get me some hopium clipped off my Obama chia and have a bowl, for sure everything will make sense then......

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                  • PipenSnus
                    Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 1038

                    #10
                    Alcohol was similarly demonized during Prohibition, and anyone who lived through the '60's and '70's can remember some of the wildly inaccurate "official" claims that were made about cannabis and other substances. The really ironic thing is that most people think they are better informed than their predecessors, when in fact they are way more gullible.

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                    • pris
                      • Apr 2025

                      #11
                      Wow, those guys are pretty smart, I mean they've obviously been carrying out extensive medical studies on Swedish Snus far longer and in greater detail than the Swedes and have found it no safer than any other oral tobacco. I must quit at once and call that helpline number

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                      • Jwalker
                        Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 1067

                        #12
                        Yeah what do you guys expect. What would happen to pharma stock if it were revealed smokeless tobacco is 90-99 percent safer than smoking.

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                        • SnusoMatic
                          Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 507

                          #13
                          Originally posted by PipenSnus View Post
                          It's a strange sort of paradox, but doctors are extremely gullible, mostly because they're so arrogant they think they're immune to being fooled. And the pharmaceutical industry, which funds most of the research and makes very sure only the research studies that support their products see the light of day, is only too happy to keep feeding the doctors all the BS they can swallow.
                          i agree with that. because of the work i used to do me and my family moved around a lot. For the first 15 years i was married we averaged moving more than once a year. Each time we moved we thought we would be there a few years. I have some ongoing health issues so every time we moved i went out and found a new doctor. so i have had a bunch of doctors. Sometimes one visit was enough for me to know i would never go back.

                          Some of those doctors were just plain dumb. I came to one conclusion that fit most of the dumbest ones..... they came from well off families that could afford to send them off to be students. They went off to school and had everything paid for them and all they had to do was make grades. Most don't give a rats butt if you live or die as long as they get paid. Then you have a large group that all they do is keep up with the latest drugs so they can prescribe it and make a kickback. For every ten that i have been to MAYBE one cared about you. thats not to say he was good at what he did but he did care. One out of fifteen cared AND was smart.... I aint even sure if it was that many to tell you the truth.

                          To refer back to what PipenSnus said.... maybe half of them tried to seem like they knew what they were doing so they would sit and regurgitate studies that they had read to me about my health issues. I would already know what they were telling me because i had read about it in the newspaper or a magazine (most of this was before the internet) or later on the net. Some of them were not even good enough to try and bs me.

                          It got to the point where i was so sick of new doctors that turned it into a game. For example, i am diabetic and have been for years. So i go to this new doctor and don't tell him i am diabetic at all. What i do is complain of all the text book symptoms of diabetes.... thirsty all the time, getting pissed off for no reason, peeing often, staying hungry, losing weight, tired all the time. The moron did not even pick up on it. So i went back one more time and this time i made a real issue out of it telling him i felt like i could just lay down and die. Still did not pick up on it. so i quit going to that one haha. his daddy is an attorney and they were both big wheels in town.

                          What's the moral of this rant? Find out what you need to know for yourself. For the record snus is not healthy but as most of you know it's not the same as dip and a far cry from cigarettes. Heck in my case i figure it added ten years to my life because it got me off cigarettes.

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                          • zoomzoom9
                            Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 44

                            #14
                            They must have a pretty loose definition of "newer", because if I'm not mistaken, snus has been around for a few centuries...

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                            • visiON
                              Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 308

                              #15
                              Originally posted by zoomzoom9
                              They must have a pretty loose definition of "newer", because if I'm not mistaken, snus has been around for a few centuries...
                              Comparing few centuries of snusage to several thousand years of smoking, by that comparison I would say snus is "newer"

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