Depression – How Organic Nicotine Can Help

[texasmade]

I have heard that nicotine does not cause cancer but it is a catalyst and helps create an environment that promotes cancer. I found this on the net but am not sure how reliable the study is. It talks about NRTs causing cancer.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle6143744.ece

The only safe tobacco is no tobacco but I still like the fact that snus is many times safer to use than cigarettes.

antioxidants.

the amounts of green and white tea i drink surely cancel out anything negative that snus does

[GENERAL BILLY]

I am also a member of the fat and depressed club and that the article seems to read pretty high on the bullshit meter but that said I do believe nicotine helps with depression, anxiety and concentration. I am always a little depressed but I haven't been 'stare at the ceiling for three months drinking Jamesons and listening to Wilco depressed' since I started snus.

[danielan]

Hmmm, Fat and happy here... Dumb is still under evaluation.

[SnusoMatic]

ever known someone with Schizophrenia who smoked? if so you know they smoke like a steam train. Regardless of harm i am as certain as i can be that people use nicotine to self treat different mental disorders even when they don't even know they are. this has been well known for decades. but i speak from personal experience as well as second hand. i wish doctors were not so self righteous and would turn Schizophrenics onto snus. So many smoke them selves to death

[texasmade]

ever known someone with Schizophrenia who smoked? if so you know they smoke like a steam train. Regardless of harm i am as certain as i can be that people use nicotine to self treat different mental disorders even when they don't even know they are. this has been well known for decades. but i speak from personal experience as well as second hand. i wish doctors were not so self righteous and would turn Schizophrenics onto snus. So many smoke them selves to death

same with smokers that have UC

[PipenSnus]

ever known someone with Schizophrenia who smoked? if so you know they smoke like a steam train. Regardless of harm i am as certain as i can be that people use nicotine to self treat different mental disorders even when they don't even know they are. this has been well known for decades. but i speak from personal experience as well as second hand. i wish doctors were not so self righteous and would turn Schizophrenics onto snus. So many smoke them selves to death

Yeah, I mentioned something about this this in another thread. A neuropsychiatrist started investigating this, and in the process invented Chantix. Turns out schizophrenics use nicotine as a cognitive enhancer -- it helps them think more clearly.

[LaZeR]

I dunno but I can say this. Without any nicotine, I am much more depressed, upset, and anxious.

[PipenSnus]

I dunno but I can say this. Without any nicotine, I am much more depressed, upset, and anxious.

How much of that depression and anxiety is due to being unable to think clearly? Without nicotine, I get very befuddled over the simplest things, and that makes me downright cranky.

[sgreger1]

there is no asprin in oxycontin

My apologies, not oxycontin, but instead in many of our other favorites: Vicodin, Hydrocodone, Lortab, Maxidone, Norco, Zydone, Tylenol with codeine, Percocet, Endocet, and Darvocet

[Frosted]

5 months without nicotine I was still terribly lethargic and grumpy. I hated it.

I do believe that on nicotine I'm the same as I would have been if I had never taken nicotine - but since I've been addicted for years I think my chemistry is changed for good therefore I now need nicotine to function normally.

[richs10]

I have been vaping for about 5 months now and just started mixing in Snus. The reason is I still seem to be missing something that I must have been getting from the burning effect of Tobacco. I have read very vague references to the thought that burning tobacco may create MAOI's and alkoloids (?), neither of which I know much about, which combat the depression and anxiety, but nothing with substantial authority.

After years of smoking regular cigarettes, the e-cig completely removed any desire for smoking and fully satisfied my nicotine cravings, but it always seems that about 3 to 4 weeks after stopping regular cigarettes, I get terribly depressed and anxious. I have switched back to cigs and it goes away in a week or so (which infuriates me because I DON'T WANT TO SMOKE).

I'm now trying out Snus (General White) to see if I can get these added benefits without the cigs. (still love my vaping, though). I have done some searches here and on the net, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of research into the MAOI/Alkoloid benefits of smoking tobacco or whether this "benefit" still works with Snus. I am hopeful that it might.

I am slowing becoming convinced that I am one of those people who have multiple demons to conquer in quitting tobacco cigarettes completely. It's very disheartening, since I love being able to actually breath and not "cough up a lung" every morning!

If anyone has any info on this issue (MAOI's and Snus), I would appreciate a link!

Thanks,
Rich

[Guest]

Not sure if this will help but I've found that only nicotine from a tobacco based product gives me that 'uplift' in the mood deparment as opposed to NRT/test tube nicotine which just makes me feel stressed like I've drank too much coffee. Sorry but don't know much about E-Cig ingredients but I'm sure some of our other members will be able to share some of their wisdom in that area. Personally I've always suspected there's more to tobacco than just nicotine.

[lxskllr]

I don't have any research to link you to, but I've heard other people state what pris has said, and I have a vague recollection of somebody mentioning that there's compounds in tobacco that aren't in pure nicotine solutions. Sorry I don't have any firm answers for you, but hopefully the snus will help you out :^)

[Guest]

Let us know how you go with the snus richs10. I suspect it will give you that mood lift you're looking for (as cigs do) It does for me anway. I'm loving General Long portions in the chill-out department right now and Skruf Stark for my wake-up call.

[PipenSnus]

Did anyone stop to think that there may be a very good reason why native North Americans consider tobacco to be a sacred plant?