Research Study of Smokeless Tobacco Users in Oklahoma

[nmsooner]

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[Darwin]

Trojan Horse.

[snusgetter]

Trojan Horse.

How can u tell?

[lxskllr]

People will have to use their own judgment. I'd be leery of sending my DNA off to a researcher for whatever use. I'd be interested in hearing what the scope of the study is.

[Darwin]

"How can u tell?"

The word "dependence". If that is the true nature of the "study" then it is a waste of grant money and/or some grad student's time. If the real nature is an attempt to document harm levels of smokeless then it is legitimate but subject to manipulation of the data to advance a pre-determined agenda. It is excruciatingly difficult to not be suspicious of such studies in the present atmosphere of Tobacco Derangement Syndrome so prevalent in our country. You can call me a cynic but I hope not a sucker.

[Premium Parrots]

This guy doesn't identify himself or his research facility in any way. He doesn't mention his objectives either. They will probably take all the info, whether good or bad, and use it against us. The phone number listed is for an unidentified cell phone. I won't be sending this fellow any information whatsoever.


considers moving this thread to the mod area. but I'll wait

[snusgetter]

This guy doesn't identify himself or his research facility in any way. He doesn't mention his objectives either. They will probably take all the info, whether good or bad, and use it against us. I won't be sending this fellow any information whatsoever.


considers moving this thread to the mod area. but I'll wait

I certainly hope you move/remove this thread if he doesn't respond here very shortly.

We've got enough crap to contend with already...



Thanx, Darwin ^^^

[dxh]

I have my mothers maiden name and social...you want that too?

[myuserid]

"How can u tell?"

The word "dependence". If that is the true nature of the "study" then it is a waste of grant money and/or some grad student's time. If the real nature is an attempt to document harm levels of smokeless then it is legitimate but subject to manipulation of the data to advance a pre-determined agenda. It is excruciatingly difficult to not be suspicious of such studies in the present atmosphere of Tobacco Derangement Syndrome so prevalent in our country. You can call me a cynic but I hope not a sucker.

Good eye.

[snusgetter]

Looks like nmsooner went offline just as the questions started showing up!!!

[snusgetter]

Hey, this is also a blog!!

http://www.snuson.com/forum/entry.ph...y-of-Smokeless...

That makes it legit, right?
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[nmsooner]

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[GoVegan]

• No history of other substance abuse or psychiatric illness

It's that damn no history of psychiatric illness again!

[nmsooner]

The study is for ST users living in Oklahoma

[Frosted]

I don't want to come across as being rude because I know that research does some extremely valuable work - but - this study is a no brainer. Yes - anything with nicotine causes dependence so why measure it? We already know that some people are more dependent on it than others and medical research already knows why. We also know why people use smokeless tobacco.

So that's that all wrapped up then.