Positive article at Reason.com on Norweigians quitting smoking with snus

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  • danielan
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    • Apr 2010
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    Positive article at Reason.com on Norweigians quitting smoking with snus

    http://reason.com/blog/2010/07/20/sn...pharmaceutical

    A study recently published online by the journal Nicotine & Tobacco Research finds that switching to snus (Swedish-style oral snuff) is by far the most popular method for quitting smoking in Norway. Furthermore, it is much more effective than using nicotine replacement products sold by pharmaceutical companies. Examining survey responses from about 1,800 current cigarette smokers and about 1,800 former smokers, researchers led by Karl Erik Lund of the Norwegian Institute for Alcohol and Drug Research found that nearly one-third had used snus in their last quit attempt. They were almost three times as likely to have succeeded as the smokers who used the next most popular method, nicotine gum (used by 18 percent of the respondents). The only method that looked more effective than snus was varenicline (sold in the U.S. as Chantix), a prescription drug that is designed to block nicotine's psychoactive effects (and that now carries a daunting FDA warning). Measured by abstinence rates, varenicline was about five times as effective as nicotine gum, but it was used by only 1 percent of the respondents.

    Lund and his co-authors speculate that snus—which is banned in most of the E.U. but available in Norway, Sweden, and the U.S.—is more popular and more effective than the pharmaceutical products because "the nicotine dose is almost the same as for cigarettes," because snus "tastes of tobacco and thus has a sensory effect that medicinal nicotine products perhaps lack," and because "the choice of brand, aesthetic rituals of use, and visibility can represent social positioning and self presentation." In short, snus is a closer substitute for cigarettes. Not surprisingly, people who quit smoking by switching to snus are also more likely to continue using the substitute than people who quit with nicotice replacement products. But since the hazards posed by snus are tiny compared to the hazards posed by cigarettes, the health benefit is undeniable—unless you are one of the many anti-smoking activists and public health officials who continue to deny or obscure this truth because you're afraid of what consumers will do with the information.

    "In light of all the available evidence," two prominent American tobacco researchers concluded in 2007, "the banning or exaggerated opposition to snus in cigarette-rife environments is not sound public-health policy." Now that the Food and Drug Administration is in charge of regulating tobacco products, it will be making decisions that determine the extent to which snus can compete not only with cigarettes but with pharmaceutical products such as nicotine gum. If it really is guided by science and by public health principles, it will allow snus to be marketed as a safer alternative to cigarettes, and it won't try to suppress information like the results of this study. But I wouldn't bet on it.

    Addendum: A commenter claims "the heart is still at just as great a risk with snus as it is with cigarettes." This is just the sort of misinformation that snus alarmists tend to foster. While some research has indicated a link between snus and heart disease, the level of risk found in those studies is substantially lower than the risk associated with cigarette smoking. More-recent research suggests the use of snus does not measurably raise the risk of heart disease: A 2009 study reported in the Journal of Internal Medicine found "there was no association between use of snus and risk for cardiovascular disease." In any case, there is no denying that the overall hazard posed by snus is far lower than the hazard posed by cigarettes. A 2007 Lancet study found "there was little difference in health-adjusted life expectancy between smokers who quit all tobacco and smokers who switch to snus." The authors of the study discussed in this post note that "nicotine uptake from snus instead of from cigarettes has the potential for reducing harm by at least 90%."
  • Frosted
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    • Mar 2010
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    #2
    Great you can spot such a recent article Danielan - thanks.

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    • sgreger1
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      • Mar 2009
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      Thanks for the article frosted! I am trying to get my dad to quit smoking and switch to snus. The selling point i'm trying to use is the fact that he is a prepper that is stocking up and trying to be more self sufficient because he thinks the system will fail at some point in the coming years. Given this, snus is a much better medium of tobacco use because it has a significantly longer shelf-life (especially if frozen) than a pack of cigarettes does and can also be grown and manufactured yourself if you have room for a small garden. Most preppers keep enough to be self sufficient for at least a year, and most snus will last at least a year if stored properly, so obviousely snus is the survivalists choice for tobacco.

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      • Frosted
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        • Mar 2010
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        #4
        Originally posted by sgreger1 View Post
        thanks for the article frosted!
        ?

        lol

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        • tom502
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          • Feb 2009
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          #5
          My father refuses to try any alternative to smoking, he wouldn't even touch the snus, I just give up.

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          • xrt
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            • Jun 2010
            • 374

            #6
            Originally posted by tom502 View Post
            My father refuses to try any alternative to smoking, he wouldn't even touch the snus, I just give up.
            Same here, had my father over for a few days. Offered him nasal snuff, snus, dip, chew, twists... nothing.
            "Just Marlboro red thanks"

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            • sgreger1
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              • Mar 2009
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              #7
              Originally posted by Frosted View Post
              ?

              lol



              Lol, my bad, I meant Danielan. As for you Frosted, **** you, you destroyed the gulf.

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              • dxh
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                • Jun 2010
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                #8
                Originally posted by sgreger1 View Post
                as for you frosted, **** you, you destroyed the gulf.
                lmfao

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                • truthwolf1
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                  • Oct 2008
                  • 2696

                  #9
                  Most smokers I have talked to are intrigued but are not ready to quit smoking.
                  A few have tried maybe a portion but that is where it stopped until I found one woman from Europe who had a big smile after I gave her a can of thunder-mini.

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                  • Frosted
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                    • Mar 2010
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by sgreger1 View Post
                    Lol, my bad, I meant Danielan. As for you Frosted, **** you, you destroyed the gulf.
                    Once again - sorry about that.

                    (Wonders how long it'll take to get on to Hitler)

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                    • sgreger1
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                      • Mar 2009
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                      Originally posted by Frosted View Post
                      Once again - sorry about that.

                      (Wonders how long it'll take to get on to Hitler)
                      And now I hear you somehow brokered a deal for the Lockerbie bomber to be released in exchange for an oil contract. Then, I hear you posted a picture of a "response" center for the oil spill and it turned out to be photoshopped and from 2001. You make me SICK!

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                      • Frosted
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                        • Mar 2010
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by sgreger1 View Post
                        And now I hear you somehow brokered a deal for the Lockerbie bomber to be released in exchange for an oil contract. Then, I hear you posted a picture of a "response" center for the oil spill and it turned out to be photoshopped and from 2001. You make me SICK!
                        Hmmm yeah - sorry about that too.

                        Is that the time?

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                        • danielan
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                          • Apr 2010
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Frosted View Post
                          Great you can spot such a recent article Danielan - thanks.
                          Yw... I wish I could claim to be a super snus researcher like some people, but I just get a daily e-mail from Google News with "snus" alerts.

                          Another forum seems to have not only "scooped" me by like 2 days, and, really, a much better post including links to the actual study...

                          http://ntr.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/ntq105v1

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                          • CoderGuy
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                            • Jul 2009
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by tom502 View Post
                            My father refuses to try any alternative to smoking, he wouldn't even touch the snus, I just give up.
                            Mine too. He uses the excuse he has dentures, "It would be impossible to use with dentures" he says. I argue there are some on here with dentures but he just lights up and says, "yeah but it doesn't sound safe".

                            Who says with age comes wisdom lol

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                            • LaZeR
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                              • Oct 2009
                              • 3994

                              #15
                              Originally posted by CoderGuy View Post
                              Mine too. He uses the excuse he has dentures, "It would be impossible to use with dentures" he says. I argue there are some on here with dentures but he just lights up and says, "yeah but it doesn't sound safe".

                              Who says with age comes wisdom lol
                              Works fine with my uppers either in or out both portion & lös.

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