Please Confirm: Is Offroad Longcut similar to American dip?

[pinklungs]

Sorry all,

I'm afraid I'll be posting these dumb questions until I receive my first order from the Northerner. Once I get my order I'll be able to figure some stuff out for myself.

So the question is this.....is this Offroad Longcut stuff used like dip. i.e . no need to 'bake a pris' ...can I just jam a pinch in and be set?

I've been able to research for myself that the tobacco used for Offroad goes thru the more appealing and safer pateurization curing process. Does this mean I can swallow atleast some of the juices?

Any tips from Offroad Longcut users is appreciated!

[TommyGunBC]

offroad longcut is a long cut snus , so yes it is safe to swallow

[pinklungs]

Hey TommyG,

Thanks for the response. So you've used Offroad Longcut?. What did you think of it? Still waiting on my order....shipped on Dec. 13th. Should get here any day now no? What's the longest you've waited for an order?

[sgreger1]

Pinklungs, Offroad wintergreen will have a taste similar (but also different) from skoal. I used to dip and enjoyed the american flavors, but I think you will find that it doesn't transfer over as well to the snus. All the flavored ones like offroad wintergreen seem weird to me, an ex dipper, and I do not enjoy them. Hopefully you will, but incase you don't, just keep in mind that that is natural. Over time you will grow to like the lesser flavored ones a lot more.



As for usage:

If you got the loos snus, than it comes in a cut similar to that of american dip, except it is much more fine. I would not recommend just taking a pinch like you would with dip, because it will be messy and won't turn out that enjoyable. Try portions. Portions aren't like dip pouches, in fact while I hated dip pouches, I will only snus portions.


It goes in the upper lip, you will not get much juice, but any juice you do get can be swallowed. That's the best thing about snus, no spitting ever. Much more discreet.



Anyways, if you bought the loos (non pouched) offroad, than I would recommend you hand bake it, or if you want to spend a few bucks you could get a prismaster or icetool. These tools ARE worth the money, as I personally can't hand bake a good pris.



All in all, i think you should try the portions, that is the best for beginners, and will get around the issue of having to buy hardware in order to use it.

[pinklungs]

sgreger1,
Cool man. I may be getting fooled by the label on the Offroad stuff.....on the website and can it says LONG CUT, so looking down at my Skoal can right now, it says the same thing LONG CUT[/B]. That's what has lead me to believe that the Offroad Longcut would be a similar product to Skoal Longcut. I realize Offroad makes a loose and a portion..which from what I've read is a powdered, hydrated form. I've ordered several cans of loose of varying brands and 2 prismaster tools. Can't wait for their arrival. Will put some portions in my next order as per your advice...cheers.

[sgreger1]

sgreger1,
Cool man. I may be getting fooled by the label on the Offroad stuff.....on the website and can it says LONG CUT, so looking down at my Skoal can right now, it says the same thing LONG CUT[/B]. That's what has lead me to believe that the Offroad Longcut would be a similar product to Skoal Longcut. I realize Offroad makes a loose and a portion..which from what I've read is a powdered, hydrated form. I've ordered several cans of loose of varying brands and 2 prismaster tools. Can't wait for their arrival. Will put some portions in my next order as per your advice...cheers.

Be advised that "long cut" means something entirely different when referencing snus as opposed to american dip. The loose offroad you will be getting is NOTHING like american dip, and should not be administered in the same fashion as dip.



When you get your snus, grab your prissmaster and use it to compress a small amount of the loose into a nice TIGHTLY (this is important) packed little rock of snus. Take the prismaster and insert it into your upper lip, then discharge the snus into your upper lip. Move it around with your tongue untill it feels comfortable.


You should NOT use your bottom lip like for dip, and you should NOT use your fingers to grab a pinch, as it will result in a pris that is too loosely packed. When it is not packed tight enough, it will get all over your teeth and juice everywhere, so make sure you press it real tight.



Again, try some portions, as it is much MUCH easier than using loose, but the loos will definately work just as well.


Again, remember that you are not using american dip, so all the tips/tricks you have acquired are useless with this product. Definately read around here, there are some good videos that show how to do it properly and enjoy a nice pris.

[Snusdog]

Sorry all,

I'm afraid I'll be posting these dumb questions until I receive my first order from the Northerner. Once I get my order I'll be able to figure some stuff out for myself.

So the question is this.....is this Offroad Longcut stuff used like dip. i.e . no need to 'bake a pris' ...can I just jam a pinch in and be set?

I've been able to research for myself that the tobacco used for Offroad goes thru the more appealing and safer pateurization curing process. Does this mean I can swallow atleast some of the juices?

Any tips from Offroad Longcut users is appreciated!

Welcome to the Forum mate.

My 2 cents is to approach snus like a completely different product than dip (like wine is to beer) and let it stand on its own merits. I think one of the big mistakes is to try to find a snus that is like x brand of dip. Snus is not dip for a reason and after dipping for over 25 years I believe those reasons make snus not only safer but better.

Anyway, as an x-dipper don't be afraid of los at all. You will pick up on it in no time.

You might want to check out the Dipper's Guide to Snus. A lot of folks have contributed a lot of good info about making the transition from dip to snus as well as about los in general. You might find some of it helpful and maybe a bit of it even sane

Here is the link
http://www.snuson.com/forum/showthread.php?10549-Dipper-s-Guide-to-Snus

Again welcome and keep us posted

[SnusComsumer]

Pinklungs, Offroad wintergreen will have a taste similar (but also different) from skoal. I used to dip and enjoyed the american flavors, but I think you will find that it doesn't transfer over as well to the snus. All the flavored ones like offroad wintergreen seem weird to me, an ex dipper, and I do not enjoy them. Hopefully you will, but incase you don't, just keep in mind that that is natural. Over time you will grow to like the lesser flavored ones a lot more.



As for usage:

If you got the loos snus, than it comes in a cut similar to that of american dip, except it is much more fine. I would not recommend just taking a pinch like you would with dip, because it will be messy and won't turn out that enjoyable. Try portions. Portions aren't like dip pouches, in fact while I hated dip pouches, I will only snus portions.


It goes in the upper lip, you will not get much juice, but any juice you do get can be swallowed. That's the best thing about snus, no spitting ever. Much more discreet.



Anyways, if you bought the loos (non pouched) offroad, than I would recommend you hand bake it, or if you want to spend a few bucks you could get a prismaster or icetool. These tools ARE worth the money, as I personally can't hand bake a good pris.



All in all, i think you should try the portions, that is the best for beginners, and will get around the issue of having to buy hardware in order to use it.

first of all I would just like to say that I don't mean any disrespect to you sgreger

I don't agree I am a former dipper and used Copenhagen for well over two years . If I take the can of Copenhagen and the can of offroad longcut and hold them side-by-side the cut is very close to Copenhagen longcut whenever I use this product I use it just like dip always hillbilly pinching and don't have any problem with it whatsoever but I do have a lot of experience with dip so I can keep it together very easy as far as snus goes the way I see it is you do not have to upper lip it I feel that it is a personal preference to use top or bottom however if you bottom lip it you will produce more saliva . Which I have no problem stomaching . So use whatever is the most comfortable for you. I do use my upper lip for the regular Loose but portions I tend to lower lip a lot

here's a picture not the best quality


As far as the taste goes the offroad wintergreen seems to be really bitter to me Compared to Copenhagen And it's really the only longcut snus that is always available on the market there is limited editions that come out from time to time. I really wish they would have more available on the market

[sgreger1]

@ snusconsumer

None taken bro. I must be shadowed by my own biases on this one, as for me I cannot stand it in the bottom lip, and I definately couldn't take a pinch and just toss it in. Then again, I probably just suck at taking a pinch, I couldn't even get a good pinch of fine cut copenhagen no matter how many times I tried over the years.


@ Pinklungs


Your experience may be like his, and it may work out. I just implore you to use your upper lip with anything snus related, because it SEVERELY cuts down the amount of juice you get. Offroad longcut is actually pretty long, so if you were good (which I am definitely not) you could just grab a dip out of it I suppose. But don't get in the habit of doing that, because it won't work with any other brand of snus that i've seen.



Just try it every which way and find what you like. Most people find it best in the upper lip, and most people still prefer hand baking or using a tool over just taking a pinch, but everyone's preference is different.

[pinklungs]

Thanks very much guys.
SnusConsumer, very cool of you to post the pic comparing the two longcuts. Looks like I'll be able to pinch and lip that stuff no problem. As for all the loose I've got coming to me........glad I ordered a Prismaster! Anyway, right now it's all about keeping off the damn cigs and ensuring that I administer the dose of nic I'm accustomed to. One day I'll be a true los snus conoissuer like you good folks.

Again, my sincere thanks.

[sgreger1]

You should try my personal favorite: Thunder Frosted.

Biggest nic hit around, and it tastes great too. (and it's cheap)


Get some thunder frosted portions in your next order and you'll see what I mean. It's the only flavor I use anymore.

[pinklungs]

Great tip. Will definitely put some Thunder Frosted portions in the next order.

[Snus]

As an occasional user of US Dip for 20 years, (I preferred Copenhagen and Skoal Long Cut), and someone with advanced control skills, I highly recommend trying some of the classic, non-flavored loose snus. I pack a large hand-baked pris of Landstrom's, which took some practice to learn, but I can use it as effectively as I used to use fine Copenhagen Dip. It takes practice, but it's seriously worth it! Definitely a totally different physics than dip - which I wasn't ready for at first.

I can't imagine it passing how much I love big upper-lip snus fatties now, but if you find a good dip-like snus though, say the word - I'd love to give it a try.

[Jimbob_Rebel]

I've dipped Cope for 29 years. I now dip Grovsnus. I just pinch it and pack it like I did with Cope. I will say Grov doesn't sit too well in the lower lip and once it breaks up (mud slide) you're done.