Saying hi and have a question.

[piks101]

When people do come on here with true factual information about their experience with northerner that they present in a professional manner you still call them a liar and biased. You are unable to just accept that people don't like your site and you will try to rally everyone behind you. You do nothing but hurt Northerner by acting like such a jackass pretending you are some ambassador for them which you are not.

I never called anyone a liar, stupid or ridiculous as you have insinuated. I am not an Ambassador for Northerner just a a happy longtime customer. Northerner is not my site just my portal to snus goodness.

[Snusdog]

OK then.....I think we have exhausted this topic for today.........move along......nothing more to see here

[Thunder_Snus]

Thunder... I thought your video was an effort to lighten the discussion, as was mine. I am beyond the "your mother" stuff, as are most of us that are of legal snusing age. My mom past away btw, so it is doubly inappropriate.

I am 22 years old. If this is an attempt to insinuate that I am below 18. You are wrong. If you want to act like a child I will treat you like one with childish jokes.

[piks101]

I am 22 years old. If this is an attempt to insinuate that I am below 18. You are wrong. If you want to act like a child I will treat you like one with childish jokes.

As Snusdog suggested lets take a break from posting on this thread. I would add the suggestion to review your posts, a lot to ponder, I know I will. As for the age reference, I am saying that we are all adults on this forum (legal snusing age) and most of the members would not find "your mother" disses appropriate. Go ahead and treat me like a child but please leave my mother out of it.

[Thunder_Snus]

As Snusdog suggested lets take a break from posting on this thread. I would add the suggestion to review your posts, a lot to ponder, I know I will. As for the age reference, I am saying that we are all adults on this forum (legal snusing age) and most of the members would not find "your mother" disses appropriate. Go ahead and treat me like a child but please leave my mother out of it.

Agreed this is making both of us say some pretty irresponsible things. Me definitely more so today. I will continue to warn every new member here asking questions about the dangers of Northerner and I'm sure you will respond. When new members come on here asking about distributors let's agree that we each get one post warning of the dangers/advantages of northerner and just leave it at that. Best regards and a sincere apology.

[piks101]

Agreed this is making both of us say some pretty irresponsible things. Me definitely more so today. I will continue to warn every new member here asking questions about the dangers of Northerner and I'm sure you will respond. When new members come on here asking about distributors let's agree that we each get one post warning of the dangers/advantages of northerner and just leave it at that. Best regards and a sincere apology.

Hey, I am willing to let bygones be bygones. As for your apology regarding my mom, accepted and appreciated.

One suggestion though to prevent our little fracas from repeating itself ad nauseam to the detriment of the forum, why not promote your snus provider of choice and state what a great job they do for you and leave any comments of Northerner out, as you have not used them for over 3 years. Everyone deserves an opportunity to correct mistakes, both people and companies. If you can't resist how about something like...I used them 3 years ago and had issues as many others did at the time, so I stopped using them and started using BuySnus and they have done a great job for me since. Northerner according to many members has fixed these issues and are very happy with the service now. I tried to use them recently to purchase a particular snus that BuySnus didn't carry but I found the Northerner website more difficult to navigate and I couldn't get past the age verification even though I just turned 20 (just kidding.. ), so out of frustration I just decided to stop using them altogether, as long as BuySnus is an option and the service and pricing stay consistent they are getting my business.

[Snusdog]

Well done

Thanks fellas

[alopezg1]

what was the topic anyway?

[alopezg1]

jackobsons flader!

[piks101]

what was the topic anyway?

Jakobsson’s Flader is manufactured with a form of tobacco known as Alida. Alida is a special type of tobacco grown only in Gotland, and is known for having a delicious mild taste. Gotland’s Green is manufactured with the same type of Alida tobacco found in Jakobsson’s Icefruit.

[squeezyjohn]

Alida tobacco is not grown only in Götland - I have some seeds and have grown it in Oxford!

But not wishing to start an argument that could get nasty and go on for ages ... I shall simply add to the flow of information:

The Black Elder tree (sambucus nigra) is a native to most of northwestern Europe and comes in to flower in June. The plant grows prolifically and is considered by many gardeners to be a weed. The flower heads contain many tiny flowers and give a frothy look to the hedgerows at this time of year, the scent of them divides opinion, with many believing that there is a very real "cats pee" element to the aroma while others believe it to have a fruity scent as fine and aromatic as muscat grapes. In the UK, these flowers, fresh or dried, are traditionally used to make an alcoholic home made beverage, a cordial to be diluted, and some even dip whole flower heads in batter and fry them to eat as elderflower fritters. The flowers are also occasionally used as a minor flavouring in some brands of gin and also as a component of some perfumes.

If you leave the flowers, they will develop in to a cluster of elderberries. a deep purple/black berry the size of a small currant. These fruits are edible, but the seeds are an irritant, and the flavour, while sweet, is both pungent and full of tannin which meant they are rarely eaten. These fruits are best known in the UK as the primary ingredient in Elderberry Wine, a heady concoction which takes over 3 years to mature and has a robust flavour and is often served with the comment "this will knock your socks off". Another older recipe for elderberries is called Pontack sauce and is a spiced jelly made with elderberries and red wine and is supposedly amazing with roast pigeon or any game bird. I have made this Pontack sauce and I can confirm that it's an acquired taste! In addition to it's traditional uses, elderberries are often used commercially as a source of anthocyanins, a naturally occuring red food colouring used widely in the food industry.

The elder tree, due to it's gnarled and light coloured bark along with it's pungent smell, is known in old English folklore as the witch tree. It is the one native wood that was never burned in older times due to the superstition that the witch which inhabited the tree would be released and curse your family if you burnt it. In reality it doesn't burn very well and the smell of burning elder wood is unpleasant - so at least the superstition has some good results!

Despite it's supernatural reputation, the wood of the elder tree has a long history of being used for musical instruments. This is because it is naturally hollow having only a pith in the middle of the branches with wood outside. As this was easily removed using a simple tool, people have fashioned whistles out of the hard elder wood for millennia and even today - most Irish bagpipe reeds are fashioned from the traditional second year elder branches along with the reeds for the Welsh national instrument, the pibgorn.

So - enough about Elder already ... I've run out of things to say about it.

[squeezyjohn]

By the way - I did my science degree project about the genetic diversity of the Elder tree ... I don't normally know quite that much about things.

[piks101]

By the way - I did my science degree project about the genetic diversity of the Elder tree ... I don't normally know quite that much about things.

I haven't had a chance to digest your post yet but looks very informative and definitely in your wheelhouse. My little blurb was to get the thread rolling back in the right direction and you picked up the ball and ran with it ... thanks man.

[squeezyjohn]

Very refreshing to see it back on track too ... well done chaps!

[piks101]

Very refreshing to see it back on track too ... well done chaps!

Yeah someday Thunder and I will be sitting in a bar knocking back the beers and snus, laughing about the historic Northerner debate.