Difference in Los and portions?

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  • trebli
    Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 797

    #16
    Another question: What is the ratio of portion to los snus sales in Sweden? Again, I don't know the answer, but I'll bet los outsells portion in Sweden by a little.

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    • jtricer1973
      Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 63

      #17
      I mainly use loose unless at work, then I use portions. Wish I could always use loose but obviously at times portions just make more sense. I also usually find loose to be easier on my lip and gums than portions, but some portions are more comfortable than others. As far as flavor, I usually find the taste to be pretty close, except for Roda Lacket. To me the portions taste very different from the loose and not in a good way. Roda loose is my favorite snus followed very closely by Ettan loose and original portions, but I do not care at all for the Roda portions!!! The loose is delicious though! Its the only snus that I literally have to keep my self from swallowing and eating it!!!

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      • jtricer1973
        Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 63

        #18
        Originally posted by alopezg1 View Post
        los snus will enable you to grow a hearty beard and wrestle reindeer . Portion snus is feminine and discreet
        Yes, Yes, Yes!!! I have the "hearty beard", just tough to find many reindeer in the middle of Arkansas!!

        "Portion snus is feminine and discreet" LMAO!!

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        • joserra
          Member
          • May 2014
          • 191

          #19
          I use portions at work or when I'm out for drinks and lös at home. I prefer lös, but I don't like taking the risk of interacting with someone and having a mudslide (unless it's my gf or close friends).

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          • Snusdog
            Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 6752

            #20
            Originally posted by trebli View Post
            Question: What is the ratio of portion to los snus sales in America? I don't know the answer, but I'd be willing to bet that for every can of los sold there are 10 cans of portion sold.

            You would be wrong

            In the USA smokeless tobacco in the los form is by far king.........probably by a 50 to 1 ratio

            Now if you want to exclude dip from the mix and only specify snus..........the numbers will be stilted.......since the convenience stores and gas stations only tend to sell portions......I've never seen los for sale except in a pipe store............

            Regardless......given the choice........... when a man here reaches for noncombustible nicotine..........he goes for Los..........just like God intended
            When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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            • jtricer1973
              Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 63

              #21
              Originally posted by Snusdog View Post
              You would be wrong

              In the USA smokeless tobacco in the los form is by far king.........probably by a 50 to 1 ratio

              Now if you want to exclude dip from the mix and only specify snus..........the numbers will be stilted.......since the convenience stores and gas stations only tend to sell portions......I've never seen los for sale except in a pipe store............

              Regardless......given the choice........... when a man here reaches for noncombustible nicotine..........he goes for Los..........just like God intended
              Amen sir...Amen.

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              • trebli
                Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 797

                #22
                Originally posted by Snusdog View Post
                You would be wrong

                In the USA smokeless tobacco in the los form is by far king.........probably by a 50 to 1 ratio

                Now if you want to exclude dip from the mix and only specify snus..........the numbers will be stilted.......since the convenience stores and gas stations only tend to sell portions......I've never seen los for sale except in a pipe store............

                Regardless......given the choice........... when a man here reaches for noncombustible nicotine..........he goes for Los..........just like God intended
                I'm sure you are right about dip and chew. Concerning snus consider this - Camel sells 70% of the snus sold in America at the retail level and Camel does not even make a los.

                The reason General Los is not found at convenience stores is because they know it won't sell.

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                • Burnsey
                  Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 2572

                  #23
                  Out of curiosity, I checked SC's site and found 15 flavors of los available and 140 portion flavors available.....can we infer from that portions are the big sellers? I think so.

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                  • jtricer1973
                    Member
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 63

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Burnsey View Post
                    Out of curiosity, I checked SC's site and found 15 flavors of los available and 140 portion flavors available.....can we infer from that portions are the big sellers? I think so.
                    I'm not so sure. I think all the many many flavors are just Swdeish snus manufacturers trying to cater to Americans. I think they have a misconception that that is what Americans want, so they make it. Next thing you know its like Baskin & Robbins. I have know idea what the average snus user in Sweden likes, but I bet the overwhelming majority use more traditionally tasting snus like Ettan, Roda Lacket, and General.

                    Most snusers I know, even if they start out with flavored snus, eventually end up using the old favorites, Ettan, Roda, General,etc.

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                    • Snusdog
                      Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 6752

                      #25
                      Originally posted by trebli View Post
                      I'm sure you are right about dip and chew. Concerning snus consider this - Camel sells 70% of the snus sold in America at the retail level and Camel does not even make a los.

                      The reason General Los is not found at convenience stores is because they know it won't sell.

                      Consider:

                      Camel is a brand that is most widely known for its cigarettes

                      SM owns established branded dip varieties such as Red Man

                      When Camel snus hit the market it came in with a low nicotine rate and with the slogan....."When you can't light up use Camel snus"

                      My point is that that the way snus is marketed in America is deliberately protective of the cigarettes and existing dip market.......in Sweden it is marketed as an overt replacement of cigarettes

                      Further, I am not sure that SM's hesitation to push los in America is indicative of the viability of portions over los.......rather I think the push of portions is an attempt to disassociate snus from dip (and thus all the redneck spitting and mudjug associations that come with dip)......... Again their own product interest in dip together with the conviction that breaking the Skoal/Copenhagen hold on the current American market will be an expensive hard fought fight……. are the real factors at play here……Thus rather than present snus as a dip alternative (which would place the market focus on los)……they have instead sought to dissociate dip and snus, protect their dip interests, and carve out a non-dip, harm reduction nitch with portions.

                      That I think is the reason behind the focus on portions
                      When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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                      • Snusdog
                        Member
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 6752

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Burnsey View Post
                        Out of curiosity, I checked SC's site and found 15 flavors of los available and 140 portion flavors available.....can we infer from that portions are the big sellers? I think so.
                        Living in SC.......I have not found a single can of los in a gas station or convenience store........I think portions are the bigger seller because portions are more readily available (for the reasons I listed in my post above)

                        In the end......I could care less weather portions or los are the bigger seller. My dream is that both would be reasonably priced and easily obtainable
                        When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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