Snus nausea - high nicotine tolerance

[BergamotMan]

Hi everyone, this is my first post.
First let me say that I really like Swedish snus. It is great for work, when I can't get a smoke break. Now, I have a fairly high nicotine tolerance; I smoke over a pack of cigarettes a day, I go through a can of dipping tobacco in about two days, and I use other forms of tobacco as well. None of this gives me nausea. But the snus sometimes does. Even a pouch of 8 mg nicotine per gram snus can cause this.
I have been thinking that perhaps it is because of the chemicals used in snus. I know that they put propylene glycol and I don't know what else into snus. Keep in mind that dipping and chewing tobacco don't cause me nausea.
So my question is, is it possible that the chemicals in snus could be causing this, and, if so, are there any brands that don't do this? Has anyone else had this problem, where they don't think its because of the nicotine?
Thanks everybody. I hope this question doesn't get asked all the time.
Metta,
- Jesse

[Andy105]

Welcome, Jesse. I think it's just an adjustment, and you'll get over it. When I went from cigs to snus years ago, I'd get a little nauseous if I overdid it. I backed off a little, and it went away. I never used oral tobacco before, and swallowing juice wasn't something I was used to. I don't think that there's any chemical additives that would cause it.

[Snusdog]

It may be that the salt content in snus is irritating your stomach.......or you could be reacting to a flavoring ingredient.

Try switching brand, maker, and flavor profile (thus if you are using Jacobson's Mint by Gotland......Try General plain by SM) and see if the problem persists

[Burnsey]

I had some nausea during my transition from cigs to snus, as well.....but, when I started using Swedish instead of Camel snus. I think it is just the way snus releases nicotine, slower but steadier and stronger....I doubt that you will find a tobacco product that is as contaminate free as snus, a very clean product.....

Welcome Jesse.........

[codyg140]

Welcome Jesse.........

Why so ominous Burnsey?

[Burnsey]

Why so ominous Burnsey?

Ominous? You think that's ominous? I'll show you.....never mind.........

What's up Cody?

[squeezyjohn]

If you're buying real Swedish snus made in Swedeland - you will never get any chemicals in there that you would not regularly get in everyday food products because snus is treated as a food product by the Swedish regulations.

In addition to tobacco, salt, water and flavouring oils/essences you will find the following chemicals in different brands of snus:

Propylene Glycol (humectant - stops it drying out)
Glycerol (humectant - makes loose snus easier to form)
Salmiak (Ammonium chloride - used as a flavouring in some brands)
Sodium Carbonate (an alkali salt that is used in small quantities to make the snus have a stronger effect)
Potassium Carbonate (as above)
Xylitol (an organically based artificial sweetener that is beneficial to teeth)
Ethanol (can be found in trace amounts left over from the flavouring process)

[mattzq8sonoma]

If you're buying real Swedish snus made in Swedeland - you will never get any chemicals in there that you would not regularly get in everyday food products because snus is treated as a food product by the Swedish regulations.

In addition to tobacco, salt, water and flavouring oils/essences you will find the following chemicals in different brands of snus:

Propylene Glycol (humectant - stops it drying out)
Glycerol (humectant - makes loose snus easier to form)
Salmiak (Ammonium chloride - used as a flavouring in some brands)
Sodium Carbonate (an alkali salt that is used in small quantities to make the snus have a stronger effect)
Potassium Carbonate (as above)
Xylitol (an organically based artificial sweetener that is beneficial to teeth)
Ethanol (can be found in trace amounts left over from the flavouring process)

Ethanol is used as a diluent for the flavor compounds so you can spread them evenly more easily. SM has stopped using it in almost all blends because of some negative chemistry that happens, but other brands still use it.

Also don't forget Magnesium Carbonate (like other carbonates), Acesulfame Potassium (artificial sweetener). There may be a couple more but that's all I can think of.

The vast majority of these ingredients are also found in Moist Snuff, among a few more ingredients. So unless you have a particular sensitivity to one of these, I'd agree and say it's probably due to the nicotine delivery, which is different from both cigs and snuff.

[Skell18]

I would say it's due to the nicotine delivery. Snus has a much higher availability of free nicotine (the nicotine your body absorbs) than dip does. You may need to take huge pinches of dip to get satisfaction, a a single portion of snus will deliver more than that huge pinch. Snus is smaller, more efficient and better for you, you also get more of you you want, vitamin N!

youre getting more nic so you feel a. It uneasy when using it, happened to me when I quit smoking with snus, you soon get used to it. Also as mentioned, you could be sensitive to one of the ingredients. There are more harmful chemicals in cigarettes and dip than snus so it's unlikely to be them if you're ok with dip but, I'm not a Dr. Try just using snus for a while, no dip or cigarettes. If you feel unwell, take the portion out, use it as long as you need or feel comfortable and see if that makes a difference.

[psychicferret]

Thats not necessarily true, I once found a landmine in one snus. blow my face to smitherines it did... It was an extreme snus though.

[squeezyjohn]

Yes - it's a common thing when going from cigarettes to snus. Nicotine overdose is pretty easy to spot if you know what you're looking for - jitteriness, thumping heartbeat, involuntary twitches, lethargy, heartburn, nausea ... those can all be caused by having snus in for too long or by using a snus stronger than you are used to. What you have to remember when switching between the two delivery systems is that cigarettes are fast and snus is slow - so if you smoke too much then you can quickly feel the effects, stop, and quickly feel the drop in effect. With a slow delivery system like snus - it takes longer (minutes rather than seconds) to feel the effects, but the same is true when you take the snus out so you need to become sensitive to the effects it has on your body and pre-empt the side-effects before they take hold. Snusing more than your body wants can be a miserable thing!

[Snusdog]

Snusing more than your body wants can be a miserable thing!

Wait....what is this...... "too much snus"....... you speak of