total newbie / i'm not sure if this is for me.

[sleeptight]

hey everyone. so yesterday i did snus for my first time, wow its strong stuff.
it pretty much blew my head off, i felt dizzy for about 30mins then sick for another hour and a half. i tried it again today and it was exactly the same. is this normal?

i dont smoke cigarettes and wouldnt say i'm addicted to nicotine but i do smoke a pipe occasionaly and use snuff quite often. i've had a bit of a dizzy feeling from pipe smoking (never from snuff) but never anything like with the snus.

should i just give it up as something i'll not be able to do or is there a way to get round this.
the pack i used was the oomph 6mg which i thought was supossed to be a small dose.
i bought a top 10 box from the northener, and i'm really glad i didnt try the thunder one first.

thanks, zac

[PipenSnus]

What snuffs and what pipe tobaccos do you use? Many aren't very high in nicotine. You're probably getting a bigger dose of nicotine than you're accustomed to.

Of course, if you're not already addicted to nicotine, it would be better if you didn't use tobacco at all. No matter what form you use, you'll most likely develop some level of addiction, if you choose to continue.

[sleeptight]

the snuff i'm using atm is mc chrystals o+g and g+w kendal brown. and in my pipes mostly artisans blend and hal o'the wynd.
is snus really that much stronger than these other tobacco's or is it to do with the way/speed its absorbed?

i'm not really bothered about getting addicted, at the moment i can take it or leave it pretty much. if i go a few days or a week sometimes it doesnt bother me at all, but i do really enjoy smoking my pipe.

[Jwalker]

It's your call. There's no pressing reason for you to use snus, and it costs a fair amount of money it might make your gums recede a bit. You will probably become addicted to it and use it every day for large parts of the day. I had the same thing happen when I started where it would make me sick and now a year later that doesn't happen. I've heard Oomph is fairly strong in that it's designed to deliver nicotine quickly and is in some ways stronger than things like Nick and Johnny even though it contains less nicotine. Roda lacket and Catch Eucalyptus are a good thing to start on and then use white portions, then original, and then strong portions and finally thunder.

[sleeptight]

ok, i have some nick and johnny so i might try that. any idea if any of the others are weaker?
do you would anyone on here be willing to trade for some mini portions or something, is that allowed?
http://www.northerner.com/en/snus/No...ut%20Box-2597/

EDIT - sorry just realised you gave me some examples of weaker snus

[snusgetter]

ok, i have some nick and johnny so i might try that. any idea if any of the others are weaker?
do you would anyone on here be willing to trade for some mini portions or something, is that allowed?

Nick & Johnny = 11 - 12 mg/pouch

Here are some of the 'weakest' ones at 4mg:
Catch Licorice Mini
CatchDry Mini Eucalyptus
CatchDry Mini White Licorice
Fellinni Eucalyptus Mint Mini White
Fellinni Mint Mini White
General Dry Mini Mint
General Mini White
Tre Ankare White Mini

[sleeptight]

and i posted the wrong link
http://www.northerner.com/en/snus/No...us%20Box-2604/

[PipenSnus]

the snuff i'm using atm is mc chrystals o+g and g+w kendal brown. and in my pipes mostly artisans blend and hal o'the wynd.
is snus really that much stronger than these other tobacco's or is it to do with the way/speed its absorbed?

I would guess those are all medium to medium-high in nicotine, except for Hal O'the Wynd, which is reputed to have a rather stout nicotine kick. As far as absorption goes, snuff should be the quickest, but probably has lower nicotine percentage-wise. For me, snus absorption is about the same as a pipe.

So it doesn't sound like too much nicotine is the problem after all. It may be the same thing that Jwalker experienced -- some people just seem to get a little dizzy and nauseous at first with snus, regardless of their previous tobacco use. As he said, it's your call.

There's an exchange thread here, if you want to trade your snus.

[snusgetter]

Nick & Johnny = 11 - 12 mg/pouch

Here are some of the 'weakest' ones at 4mg:
Catch Licorice Mini
CatchDry Mini Eucalyptus
CatchDry Mini White Licorice
Fellinni Eucalyptus Mint Mini White
Fellinni Mint Mini White
General Dry Mini Mint
General Mini White
Tre Ankare White Mini

Some 8mg portions:
Catch Licorice White
Ettan Original Straight
Ettan White
General Mint White
General Original
General White
General Wintergreen White
Goteborgs Rape No. 2
Grovsnus Original Straight
Grovsnus White
Kronan White
Lab Series 01
Roda Lacket White
Thunder Frosted Mini
Thunder Original Mini

[Veganpunk]

Welcome to SnusOn. My suggestion is if you don't have a prior addiction to nicotine, it's better to stay away from snus.

[Mr. Snuffleupagus]

Oomph hits me a lot faster/stronger than a 8mg regular portion so it could just be your reaction to Oomph. Your tolerance will build fast and your body is not used to the new delivery system with snus. Pipe smoking is even different than snus to me. When I first snused, camel frosted mad me dizzy initially. Just keep trying snus, and you'll be hooked.

[PipenSnus]

Pipe smoking is even different than snus to me. When I first snused, camel frosted mad me dizzy initially.

Interesting. I guess everyone's body chemistry is different. I don't really feel a difference between pipe and snus, but then I favor some pretty nic-heavy pipe blends. And when I smoked cigs, I smoked 1.5-2 packs a day. So I guess my nicotine tolerance is pretty high, although I don't really think about it much.

[justintempler]

Welcome sleeptight,

Instead of using the mini-portion option, you could always use lös. You can control the size of the prilla. You can make them as small (or as big) as you like.

Ettan is 8 Mg/g , so 1/2 gram would give you 4mg of one of the best snus evermade.

[Mr. Snuffleupagus]

Interesting. I guess everyone's body chemistry is different. I don't really feel a difference between pipe and snus, but then I favor some pretty nic-heavy pipe blends. And when I smoked cigs, I smoked 1.5-2 packs a day. So I guess my nicotine tolerance is pretty high, although I don't really think about it much.

Yeah, IDK why, but I get a slightly different feeling with the pipe so far. Probably my lack of experience pipe smoking. I'm probably not getting quite as much nicotine with the amount I smoke vs. how much snus I use. I kicked a 1.5-2 pack a day cig habit as well. Congrats!

[tom502]

When I 1st tried snus, it was American Camel, and it about knocked me out, man I must have OD'd on nic. Now I know that might sound wimpy, but at that time, I had never used oral tobacco. I had used to be a regular smoker, but then I quit to be an occasional smoker(usually when I drank), so, it was totally something my body was not used to. I then got some General mini mints, and, that was about the same. Don't know why I got on the snus wagon, but I did, and eventually, I got used to it, and even could use Thunder, and even later tried American dips, and eventually my body got used to it all. I can't recommend snus to anyone unless they really wanna use it to quit smoking, I know I got into it, largely for "something to do", and sometime I wish I hadn't, but also, I believe I could quit easily, as I have for over a week, but I just like it for "something to do", and for me, I think it's better than Little Debbies.