Larry's true feelings on Northerner/SnusOn

[Owens187]

Did you guys see this last month?

http://www.snuscentral.org/latest-sn...-fda-pact.html

. . . . In an attempt to further dominate internet snus sales, The Northerner had effectively usurped and taken control of the previously non-partisan SnusOn.com Forum. They also increased their number of "straw sites"; websites owned and run by Northerner but operating under different names . . .

. . . They even obtained the SnusCentral.net domain name (bad form by them; our bad for letting it happen) and have redirected it to their Snus.com staw site . . .

Really?

[Bigblue1]

Are we the empire or republic? Seriously tho, I give a shit what they do.......... It has been proven how great we are and how cool the Northerner group is. If you have to take a meaningless shot at Northerner, it shows how weak you are.....

[Owens187]

The article just seemed a little un-professional to me. Comes across like he's "tattling" on the Northerner...

[GoVegan]

Did you guys see this last month?

http://www.snuscentral.org/latest-sn...-fda-pact.html







Really?

That is one hard article. A few things don't seem to add up about it. Northerner does seem to have a higher markup on many of their products but they also tend to offer fantastic prices on any of their promotions. They also have websites like snusbargain that offer rock bottom prices if you like the brand they are currently offering. The other issue I have is with the taxes. I really do not wish to be hit with some kind of tax evasion charge over buying a roll of snus and I also don't want to fill out a bunch of paperwork in order to pay any taxes owed over online tobacco sales. Because Northerner takes care of the taxes, it just makes a bit more sense to order from them. I also can't help but wonder if all overseas tobacco transactions will be banned in the near future which will leave Northerner as the only game in town. Please don't say that this is impossible and that trade agreements will prevent this from happening. The United States could care less about the World Court and any trade agreements. They have shown that in the way they have effectively banned other online transactions like poker. They will just make it illegal for any bank to process an online transaction with any overseas tobacco dealer. I will admit though that taking snuscentral.net is a low blow and I am still waiting to cash in all of my snuson forum points that Larry was mentioning.

[precious007]

I'm pretty sure Northerner isn't doing anything illegal...

So what is that guy rattling about ?! ...
Everyone's trying to get the bigger slice of its market share and expand their business ...
I see nothing wrong it that...

Except Northerner still practices the highest prices on the market (the online market at least) ...
Probably because they're selling the most, they can afford to raise the prices as well.

[GoVegan]

I do wish they would add Gellivare to their bonus products. I need something to look forward to.

[Owens187]

. . . I will admit though that taking snuscentral.net is a low blow . . .

That is the only part I'm trippin' on. What a low down, dirty, shady thing to do. Beyond shady. That is, if it is indeed true.

The rest of the article, dude just kind of whines and cries through, when all Northerner is doing is trying to expand its buisiness.......which, last time I checked, is the point of being in buisiness.

[precious007]

. . . They even obtained the SnusCentral.net domain name (bad form by them; our bad for letting it happen) and have redirected it to their Snus.com staw site . . .

The domain isn't redirected ....
Having a link to snus.com doesn't mean it's redirected...

[precious007]

. . . They even obtained the SnusCentral.net domain name (bad form by them; our bad for letting it happen) and have redirected it to their Snus.com staw site . . .

The domain isn't redirected ....
Having a link to snus.com doesn't mean it's redirected...

Double post :|

[raptor]

I've said a lot on this issue already. I think the article does give a good outline of price discrepancies between online retailers, as well as discussing the impact of shipping and taxes levied, despite some of his more targeted comments and criticism of Northerner.

That is one hard article. A few things don't seem to add up about it. Northerner does seem to have a higher markup on many of their products but they also tend to offer fantastic prices on any of their promotions. They also have websites like snusbargain that offer rock bottom prices if you like the brand they are currently offering. The other issue I have is with the taxes. I really do not wish to be hit with some kind of tax evasion charge over buying a roll of snus and I also don't want to fill out a bunch of paperwork in order to pay any taxes owed over online tobacco sales. Because Northerner takes care of the taxes, it just makes a bit more sense to order from them. I also can't help but wonder if all overseas tobacco transactions will be banned in the near future which will leave Northerner as the only game in town. Please don't say that this is impossible and that trade agreements will prevent this from happening. The United States could care less about the World Court and any trade agreements. They have shown that in the way they have effectively banned other online transactions like poker. They will just make it illegal for any bank to process an online transaction with any overseas tobacco dealer. I will admit though that taking snuscentral.net is a low blow and I am still waiting to cash in all of my snuson forum points that Larry was mentioning.

I need to point out in your post that Snusbargain is a recent invention, having rolled out in the last couple months. I do give Northerner credit for using it to move older/overstocked snus, but don't pretend those savings have been around for a while.

[precious007]

I need to point out in your post that Snusbargain is a recent invention, having rolled out in the last couple months. I do give Northerner credit for using it to move older/overstocked snus, but don't pretend those savings have been around for a while.

I've been looking endlessly over the bargains ...
And it's nothing near CHEAP at least for me...
I end up paying more than double the list price.

I'll stick to the buy/trade section to buy snus for as long as I'll be snusing....
$300 a month is a fortune that I can't afford... endlessly....
(I'm lucky that I have snus in the freezer to go for another 5-6 months)... 100 cans or so....

And maybe someone from the U.S will be open to help us a little out in Europe That would be the only way to get cheaper snus.....

[justintempler]

The article just seemed a little un-professional to me. Comes across like he's "tattling" on the Northerner...

Larry is like the whiney little brother that runs to mom and dad to tattle on his older brother when he does something wrong. Northerner isn't a saint but neither is Larry.

Northerner maintains two warehouses and has to deal with the crap Uncle Sam throws its way, their costs are higher, hence their prices are higher.

Northerner has a long history of buying any conceivable domian name related to snus, they were doing it long before SnusCentral existed.
Larry should have known better. If the Snuscentral.net domain is important he might want to see if Northerner will sell it to him.
If Larry had been smart enough to buy the getsnus.net domain name then Larry would have been able to redirect traffic to his site but he didn't think that far ahead of time.

The SnusCentral.se domain name seems to be available. Anybody that wants it can buy it.

[internope]

Northerner has a long history of buying any conceivable domian name related to snus, they were doing it long before SnusCentral existed.
Larry should have known better. If the Snuscentral.net domain is important he might want to see if Northerner will sell it to him.
If Larry had been smart enough to buy the getsnus.net domain name then Larry would have been able to redirect traffic to his site but he didn't think that far ahead of time.

I agree. Buying related domain names, both expired and new, can be a valuable tool for search engine optimization. Nothing wrong with that at all.

[RobsanX]

Business competition sometimes gets nasty. I think it has to do more with personalities than anything else.

Have you seen the latest Coke Zero v. Pepsi Max commercial where the Coke guy throws the the Pepsi guy through the window? That's not very far off the mark.

[Simplysnus]

I agree. Buying related domain names, both expired and new, can be a valuable tool for search engine optimization. Nothing wrong with that at all.

It annoys me but is common enough practice.