Wanna help us build a snus army?

[sgreger1]

I'd prefer name, number, address and email, and the name of the point of contact. I'll contact each and every one of them to verify too. You can let them know I'll be calling on them. It really helps the retailer come to a buying decision knowing that they already have a customer willing to buy the product. I've had many people give here on SnusOn give me leads that have worked out, so this model has been working.

At this time we do not offer a fridge for our snus, we are using a counter-top display. Our manufacturers tell us that snus will stay fresh and will not lose moisture (if unopened) for 4 months. Many of the retailers that I speak with don't care for the bulky fridge that they have to place on the counter anyway, and that's why they like our display....it doesn't take up too much space, but is still very visible and effective. We will be offering a tri-fold handout that the retailer can use to help educate his clients.

Feel free to ask Fred or myself if you guys/gals have any other questions.....good luck

Oh, that's all? Perhaps I can get their social security number, ebay username and facebook password while i'm there. Be like "Hey chief, someones gonna be giving you a call real soon about something that you do NOT want to **** up, so here's the deal, what's your phone number?". lolollo



But just to clarify for everyone, don't just go ask for the name and phone number of the guy behind the counter next time you go to buy beer, you have to actually have them intirested in purchasing snus enough to give you their name and phone number.




All you guys have to do is go into a store and ask if they have snus. When they say no, bitch about it like "damn I don't know a single store that carries this. I am paying extra to ship it all the way from sweden right now which sucks, so me and my friends were wondering if maybe you carried it or can carry it so that way we could just come here to buy it instead of waiting 3 weeks for shipping."

Or even be more direct, just tell the guy that you buy lots of snus but note that it's a giant pain in the ass to have it shipped. Ask him is he is willing to carry it so that you can come there and buy it from it. If he says yes, or sounds like it might be a "maybe", ask him for his name and number. Tell him he has a guaranteed customer if he will start stocking it. He will try to sell you camel or some othershit, so just let him know that you will not use any other kind of tobacco, that you REALLY like snus and need somewhere to buy it. Dude might place an order just to make money off you, and maybe hook some other customers.

[sgreger1]

I just thought of another thing. Is Northerner allowed to sell snus to other resellers? Sounds a bit odd to me.

Of course, that's how the entire distribution process works. Like consumer electrionics:

*Manufacturer builds a phone charger
*Distributor buys phone chargers in bulk from manufacturer
*Distributor sells it in much smaller quantities to retail distribution chains abroad (like radio shack or best buy)
*Retail store sells to end-point customer.


Most products have gone through at least 3 hands before they got to yours.


Either way, it's not illegal for a reseller to resell to another reseller (like radioshack selling to best buy), it just doesn't ever happen since there's no profit in that (or very little).

[lxskllr]

I just thought of another thing. Is Northerner allowed to sell snus to other resellers? Sounds a bit odd to me.

They're a wholesale distributor in the USA, as well as internet retail.

Either way, it's not illegal for a reseller to resell to another reseller (like radioshack selling to best buy), it just doesn't ever happen since there's no profit in that (or very little).

That's not necessarily true. Alcohol has some fairly arcane rules and regulations regarding who can sell to who. Tobacco may or may not be the same, but it isn't clearcut.

[Hanske]

Of course, that's how the entire distribution process works. Like consumer electrionics:

*Manufacturer builds a phone charger
*Distributor buys phone chargers in bulk from manufacturer
*Distributor sells it in much smaller quantities to retail distribution chains abroad (like radio shack or best buy)
*Retail store sells to end-point customer.


Most products have gone through at least 3 hands before they got to yours.


Either way, it's not illegal for a reseller to resell to another reseller (like radioshack selling to best buy), it just doesn't ever happen since there's no profit in that (or very little).

This might be in the US. A country I've never been to, so I don't know how all things work over there.

In Norway, it wouldn't be allowed. The final outlet would have bought it from the distributer, wich is the only company between the producer and the final outlet.

[Jwalker]

No offense norway has a bunch of crazy laws in the U.S. I think any store with a tobacco license can sell tobacco plenty of bars and restaurants in santa barbara sell cigarettes which I assume is legal. I'm also sure from the mark up that they actually buy them from retail stores, I know places like business costco or other stores where a lot of small businesses buy candy in bulk and resell it.

[Hanske]

Yep, I agree. We have some crazy laws. However, tobacco isn't very regulated. If the place sells soda, it sells tobacco. Cash and carries for small stores excists here as well.


EDIT: Stupid iPad corrigation.
EDIT2: More corrigation needed...

[Jwalker]

Yeah I think that's true in most of the world that tobacco is sold almost everywhere there's proposals to change that but it's something that will probably never happen because businesses don't want to lose the money. Even in california probably half of the stores stock dip and I've rarely seen anyone buy it. That's how they explain kids smoking here is that they see cigarettes and that seeing them makes them want to buy them, not something like it gives you a nicotine buzz or it's to a certain extent enjoyable .

[outbackblackjack]

Oh, that's all? Perhaps I can get their social security number, ebay username and facebook password while i'm there. Be like "Hey chief, someones gonna be giving you a call real soon about something that you do NOT want to **** up, so here's the deal, what's your phone number?". lolollo



But just to clarify for everyone, don't just go ask for the name and phone number of the guy behind the counter next time you go to buy beer, you have to actually have them intirested in purchasing snus enough to give you their name and phone number.




All you guys have to do is go into a store and ask if they have snus. When they say no, bitch about it like "damn I don't know a single store that carries this. I am paying extra to ship it all the way from sweden right now which sucks, so me and my friends were wondering if maybe you carried it or can carry it so that way we could just come here to buy it instead of waiting 3 weeks for shipping."

Or even be more direct, just tell the guy that you buy lots of snus but note that it's a giant pain in the ass to have it shipped. Ask him is he is willing to carry it so that you can come there and buy it from it. If he says yes, or sounds like it might be a "maybe", ask him for his name and number. Tell him he has a guaranteed customer if he will start stocking it. He will try to sell you camel or some othershit, so just let him know that you will not use any other kind of tobacco, that you REALLY like snus and need somewhere to buy it. Dude might place an order just to make money off you, and maybe hook some other customers.

Yeah the odds of a tobacco shop remembering your name is like winning the daily lottery number. I think Fredrick is covering his bases so he doesn't have to give very many people anything for free. what another bunch of BS! Almost as ridiculous as Northerner's shipping rates! I live in PA and the warehouse is in PA so why are the shipping rates so goddamn high Fredrick?

[Rattlesnake]

There is a scam that comes to my email address several times a week wanting me to get local business to use credit card processing in their store. All i have to do is go out and get all their protected info. and check their underwear for skid marks and send the info to this scammer, and the will pay me 5.00$ (USD). And if I did I probably still would not get the money.

[LincolnSnuff]

It already exist

http://www.casaa.org/index.asp

CASAA (Consumer Advocates for Smokerfree Alternatives Association) This was started by some electronic cigarette users over at the ECF (electronic cigarette forum). It is not just about e-cigs as they are a consumer based non-profit group that advocates for the concept of harm reduction. I was in on the discussions when the idea first came up at the ECF and at first there was a split as to what it was going to be. One side wanted it to be just an advocate of e-cigs and the other side wanted it to advocate for the concept of harm reduction and include all the products associated with that. Fortunately our side won. They advocate for smokeless tobacco, especially snus, NRT, and electronic cigarettes.

Thanks for this - I just skimmed the website. While I see that everything is phrased in terms of harm reduction alternatives, 99% of the content is geared toward e-cigs. I see nothing about snus, snuff, orbs, dissolvables, etc. Obviously, this was originally started by e-cig folks, now it needs some representation from the snus and snuff ranks. The issue I see with e-cigs is that they are so new, the actual affects on the user and on others is not known. If a study kills e-cigs by showing they are harmful in some way - this organization is over. Snus and snuff have a long history of being proven essentially harmless and in my opinion should be a primary focus.

I also think that setting it up like a fraternity (for lack of a better word) with a central office that dictates policy as well as represents lobbying interests with corresponding local chapters. Those who want to get active locally with spreading the word could request (via online) membership materials (Constitution, By-Laws, principles, ideas for local activities, etc.) and set up their own chapters. This is where real work needs to be done, not just on a website with links to e-cig articles.

[chadizzy1]

Check out my bitchin' avatar.

I'm gonna miss that avatar....

[lxskllr]

Here's a shop local to me Rick. I don't want to ask about snus now because I won't be a customer, but it's a good shop, with some cool people...

http://www.mainstreetcigar.com/home

[Hanske]

Will they be willing to stock snus?

I don't know, but I believe it will be impossible for snus to become a hit in America because of all the webshops. They will always have a bigger sortiment and lower prices. What they could do is to promote it, but I guess that costs way too much.

[chadizzy1]

Will they be willing to stock snus?

I don't know, but I believe it will be impossible for snus to become a hit in America because of all the webshops. They will always have a bigger sortiment and lower prices. What they could do is to promote it, but I guess that costs way too much.

Yeah, but add in the shipping we have to pay due to PACT. That almost doubles the price.

[Hanske]

Yeah, but add in the shipping we have to pay due to PACT. That almost doubles the price.

Maybe, but woun't the stores have to pay other charges?