Gotlandssnus comment on Larry Waters lies!

[Rattlesnake]

Wow, lets hope the VIP club can find a suitable replacement for this snus. Say something like Gellivares.

I don't want a substitute!!! I want Gotland Original (yellow), Loose Snus!!!!

[sharesnusinfo!]

My favorit amoungst loose is also the Gotlands Original, and a am sorry guy´s.
But this is a for us to concentrate on improving and still continue to do better products and focus is on the brands that sells..

If it was up to me no brands would be discontinued.
I keep you guy´s girl´s on mind if we are going to do something fun in the future..
Loose snus is the original way, but in Sweden the Loose snus (all loose brands) are decrising in favor for the consumers demand for portion..
the tobaccotax in Sweden is SEK336.- per KG thats also make loose snus a verry expencive product with verry low margin for the snus manufacturers.
This is also why you can see the GRAMS in the cans decrising all the time..

But this thread was on the Larry Waters false fact,,, If you have any quetions send me an message..

[Monkey]

Sad day indeed.

[sharesnusinfo!]

WTF Jimmy?! I could live without Gul portions. Jakobssons Classic is close enough for the amount of portions I use, but no lös?? Shit... That's the only bergamot lös left for sale in America. General isn't even close.

I'm guessing Grå lös is gonna get dropped in the future too... :^(

Hmm... I'm broke, and fairly well stocked on snus, but what would it take to have a custom run of snus made? Would you guys do that? If so, what would the minimum weight have to be to get a custom run produced? It would be a couple years before I'm out of snus(yea, I stocked up :^D), but I'd be good for few kg a year. Hell, if I ever get my money back on track, I'd be willing to fly to Sweden every couple of years, and stock up on extinct Gotland lös :'^(

We have no plans at all to discontinue the "GRÅ" Anis Lös!! (it´s our first product on the market, it would be like SWM to discontinue there General loose and that would never happen!)

[Monkey]

Hmm... I'm broke, and fairly well stocked on snus, but what would it take to have a custom run of snus made? Would you guys do that? If so, what would the minimum weight have to be to get a custom run produced? It would be a couple years before I'm out of snus(yea, I stocked up :^D), but I'd be good for few kg a year. Hell, if I ever get my money back on track, I'd be willing to fly to Sweden every couple of years, and stock up on extinct Gotland lös :'^(

I will chip in on a custom run in the future if it is offered.

That's two.

[raptor]

Jimmy, is it that Gul lös wasn't earning any profits, or were the profit margins not enough to make you guys happy? Is it too much to ask to just lower production of Gul to match a lower demand instead of removing the product entirely?

[GoVegan]

Jimmy, is it that Gul lös wasn't earning any profits, or were the profit margins not enough to make you guys happy? Is it too much to ask to just lower production of Gul to match a lower demand instead of removing the product entirely?

Seems like a good idea. They have already gone through the process of being able to sell their snus here and the USA is potentially a huge market. Why not just keep original los for the US market?

[sharesnusinfo!]

Jimmy, is it that Gul lös wasn't earning any profits, or were the profit margins not enough to make you guys happy? Is it too much to ask to just lower production of Gul to match a lower demand instead of removing the product entirely?

It was not earning any profits! (i hope you have understanding of that, you cant sell a product that you don´t earn any money on)
As i told you before, if it was up to me it would still be for sale..

Sorry.

[Jwalker]

Why not do a limited release I don't think it's too much to ask as I can't imagine gotlands sells more than 5000-20,000 or so cans of their christmas loose, it would be cool if they did a limited edition run of Gotlands original los and portions, I'm not thrilled about the idea but I think some/most people would be willing to accept a fairly large price increase on it ideally less than what the christmas version costs. Oh and larry waters seems to have a serious grudge against Gotlands for selling 20 portions instead of 24, they didn't stock classic strong before I did my order which kind of sucks. This is just kind of funny/sad to me because literally within one week of finding out I like Gotland Original Loose I find out it's going to be discontinued.

[f. bandersnatch]

I think that what Larry meant to convey is that snuscentral and affiliated sites will no longer be carrying these products, not that they will be phased out entirely.

But sure, he's a damned liar, and if you could see me right now you would know I am shaking my fist in his general direction.

[GoVegan]

I think that what Larry meant to convey is that snuscentral and affiliated sites will no longer be carrying these products, not that they will be phased out entirely.

But sure, he's a damned liar, and if you could see me right now you would know I am shaking my fist in his general direction.

Larry Waters writes some interesting stuff but he does seem to have an ax to grind. I am wondering if his article about Gotlands was influenced by the fact that Northerner carries it.

[Roo]

I do not understand the Swedish commitment to a steady diet of General. General is bunk. Gotlands lös is fantastic. Perfect snus for a cold IPA, or in lxskllr's case, a perfect snus for any day, all day. You and Monkey both. I didn't use much Gul but I did appreciate its unique complexity, and I feel for you guys and the other die hard fans.

[GoVegan]

I do not understand the Swedish commitment to a steady diet of General. General is bunk. Gotlands lös is fantastic. Perfect snus for a cold IPA, or in lxskllr's case, a perfect snus for any day, all day. You and Monkey both. I didn't use much Gul but I did appreciate its unique complexity, and I feel for you guys and the other die hard fans.

We do the same here with cigarettes - I am fairly sure that Marlboro and Camels make up the lions share of the market. I think that people just get set in a routine and stay loyal to whatever brand they are most familiar with. I would choose Gotlands Original Los any day over General Original.

[Jwalker]

I was going to write something about that people generally choose a familiar decent to good product and stick with it. My understanding is that Gotlands doesn't sell much snus in sweden, the article wasn't particularly anti-gotlands it was just hey we're not selling much gotlands green (which is odd it's like 2.84 a can, I have no idea who the average purchaser is on snus central but their tastes are odd stuff like general mint, jakobson's icefruit and skurf cranberry are the largest sellers and they have the highest mark up, general mint for example is 3.69) but his last one describing jakobson's and the product description went on about how it only had 20 portions, well yeah it did and it costs 50 cents less than general so what? I like Gotlands, it's recently that they started selling a lot of snus online and became heavily dependant on online sales and went through the FDA shit, because I'm not sure but I believe they didn't raise their prices during the recent tax increase or decrease the amount of snus in their cans. Another weird thing is that they gave me a free can of general wintergreen and mint like let's hope this guy won't be deceived and will know he'll get 24 portions with swedish match snus.

The marlboro camel thing is easy, they're both mid priced and they don't taste as shitty as discount cigs and most people stick with the brand they start with or whatever is the cheapest with a decent taste. Newport is completely beyond me though they're easily the most expensive all the time and yeah just yeah.

[lxskllr]

I think Jimmy's problem with the article had to do with the Fläder sales figures. Larry said it was a poor seller, and Jimmy disagrees with that.