Swedish Match claims V2 snus is poor quality

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  • snusjus
    Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 2674

    #46
    By the way, this had me thinking: if Swedish Match wants to compete with v2, why don't they release a super-value brand? Kronan is supposed to be a second-tier brand for Swedish Match, yet the difference in price is not that great. I would suggest Swedish Match to launch a cheap brand with minimalist packaging and low-tier tobacco, and charge it at a competitive price (~$22.00 per roll). If they figure out how to cut costs for manufacturing a budget brand, they would be able to compete with v2, without resorting to fear-mongering.

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    • lxskllr
      Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 13435

      #47
      Originally posted by snusjus View Post
      By the way, this had me thinking: if Swedish Match wants to compete with v2, why don't they release a super-value brand? Kronan is supposed to be a second-tier brand for Swedish Match, yet the difference in price is not that great. I would suggest Swedish Match to launch a cheap brand with minimalist packaging and low-tier tobacco, and charge it at a competitive price (~$22.00 per roll). If they figure out how to cut costs for manufacturing a budget brand, they would be able to compete with v2, without resorting to fear-mongering.
      They might be constrained by Swedish taxes. I don't know how it compares to Denmark, but they may be priced as low as can be reasonably expected.

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      • Premium Parrots
        Super Moderators
        • Feb 2008
        • 9760

        #48
        Originally posted by snusjus View Post
        Amen. The small difference in bacteria levels are probably nothing to worry about. However, I'm not a fan of v2; the tobacco quality is low but can be a good compromise when on a budget. It's like comparing craft beer to Natural Light -- the difference in quality is apparent, but they both get the job done.
        are you really sure that V2s tobacco quality is low? I mean, V2 could use superior tobacco and probably does. It would make sense if they did. We just don't know tho.

        There are so many varieties in tobacco that can make a big difference in taste.



        remember;
        "No stems and seeds that we don't need.......acapulco golds....a bad ass weed".
        Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......





        I've been wrong lots of times.  Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.


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        • jagmanss
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          • Jul 2010
          • 12213

          #49
          Originally posted by Premium Parrots View Post
          are you really sure that V2s tobacco quality is low? I mean, V2 could use superior tobacco and probably does. It would make sense if they did. We just don't know tho.

          There are so many varieties in tobacco that can make a big difference in taste.



          remember;
          "No stems and seeds that we don't need.......acapulco golds....a bad ass weed"
          .
          Dude! I remember you now.... I used to score of off you... you used to sell bad ass weed... Remember me... Cause I remember you... Course I was on acid at the time though... LOL

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          • sgreger1
            Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 9451

            #50
            Sgreger1 claims Swedish Match can gobble a bowl of dicks. More after the jump.

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            • rickcharles606
              Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 2307

              #51
              Originally posted by sgreger1 View Post
              Sgreger1 claims Swedish Match can gobble a bowl of dicks. More after the jump.
              OMG this is the funniest shit I've read in days...maybe its the booze.

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              • Bigblue1
                Banned Users
                • Dec 2008
                • 3923

                #52
                yeah it's bullshit. I sit here drinkining a cup of "bullshit" vodka that costs less than the popular ones but it is doing a great job for far less. I guess what i am saying is, marketing has a far greater pull on us than we think it does. go head jagman and nail me for admitting to drinkinking subpar stuff...........

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                • Premium Parrots
                  Super Moderators
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 9760

                  #53
                  Not to worry BB

                  shitty booze will get you drunk cheap, cheap snus will give you a nic kick as well as an expensive snus, Crappy weed won't do a dam thing...you need to paid to catch a buzz w/weed.


                  just sayin
                  Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......





                  I've been wrong lots of times.  Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.


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                  • jagmanss
                    Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 12213

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Bigblue1 View Post
                    yeah it's bullshit. I sit here drinkining a cup of "bullshit" vodka that costs less than the popular ones but it is doing a great job for far less. I guess what i am saying is, marketing has a far greater pull on us than we think it does. go head jagman and nail me for admitting to drinkinking subpar stuff...........
                    I would, But it depends on what kinda subpar"bullshit" vodka stuff you are drinking... Names please.... Wait for it....

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                    • jagmanss
                      Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 12213

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Premium Parrots View Post
                      Not to worry BB

                      shitty booze will get you drunk cheap, cheap snus will give you a nic kick as well as an expensive snus, Crappy weed won't do a dam thing...you need to paid to catch a buzz w/weed.


                      just sayin
                      yeah, He's right.. PP... Dude! I remember you now.... I used to score of off you... LOL

                      You sold me Crappy weed

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                      • Premium Parrots
                        Super Moderators
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 9760

                        #56
                        Originally posted by jagmanss View Post
                        yeah, He's right.. PP... Dude! I remember you now.... I used to score of off you... LOL

                        You sold me Crappy weed
                        I remember you. You're the cheap ass that bought that ditch weed nobody else wanted.

                        ya gotta pay if you want to play
                        Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......





                        I've been wrong lots of times.  Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.


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                        • Jwalker
                          Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 1067

                          #57
                          I believe V2 uses quality tobacco for a simple reason it doesn't cost more, 1lb of american tobacco is around 2 dollars a pound to the tobacco companies air cured is cheaper than average and foreign high quality tobacco is cheaper still, V2 could pay like 2 dollars a pound tops and get probably 14oz of usable leaf after stemming and removing tobacco dust, a can of thunder has 8-11grams of tobacco or so (snus is half water, 30-40 percent tobacco, 10-20 percent salt and flavoring/preservatives so you could make 30 cans for 2 dollars easily(at least in terms of tobacco cost). I think 2 dollars is about fair since it costs probably about a dollar to make a can in terms of operating, employees, utilities, rent, etc. less if you make huge amounts. Swedish match throws out a fair amount of snus and tobacco so they could charge more but I'd say 2.50 a can is more reasonable (this might be what they charge actually northerner and buysnus have to mark up the price.)

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                          • jagmanss
                            Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 12213

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Premium Parrots View Post
                            I remember you. You're the cheap ass that bought that ditch weed nobody else wanted.

                            ya gotta pay if you want to play
                            If I remember correcty it was Oregano you son of a b.... But my memory ain't what it used to be.... Too much Oregano is my guess...

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                            • Bigblue1
                              Banned Users
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 3923

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Premium Parrots View Post
                              Not to worry BB

                              shitty booze will get you drunk cheap, cheap snus will give you a nic kick as well as an expensive snus, Crappy weed won't do a dam thing...you need to paid to catch a buzz w/weed.


                              just sayin
                              I ain't smoked in a while, but your correct. shitty weed is shitty weed........

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                              • chadizzy1
                                Member
                                • May 2009
                                • 7432

                                #60
                                Just had this emailed from a friend.

                                Translated to English:
                                http://translate.google.com/translat...862776&act=url

                                Original:
                                http://www.nfo.nu/b95000c/base/51862776

                                It has a rebuttal from V2 in it too

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