Organic snus?

[skyline142]

I am kind of curious about this. In Sweden, are they big with an organic movement at all? This city I live in, is kind of becoming quite big with the local/organic/fair trade movement. I wonder how that is in Sweden. All organic fruits, vegetables, ketchup, soups, ice cream; basically anything Organic I have tried has been much more flavorful, texture has been more preferable.

Anyway, the point I am getting at, would you guys be more attracted to a snus brand that went for an organic side? Like, Organic tobacco that was sustainably harvested and grown without harsh pesticides, sea salt (instead of processed salts), natural sweeteners (if any), stuff like that?

[GoVegan]

I am not from Sweden but I would definitely pay extra for an organic snus. Especially if it was a plain los type.

[skyline142]

Awesome! I think a manufacture should really look into it. Sea salt too is really healthy for body, even topical wise. Has like, 80 some different minerals which all support healthy skin growth. Maybe that would decrease even a small amount of TSNAs that may build up? Idk about that, just a guess.

[GoVegan]

Fair trade tobacco would be another plus IMO. For some reason, I always picture tobacco growers as being dirt poor farmers living in India who spray massive amounts of DDT on their crops. I could be way off though.

[Ansel]

I am not from Sweden but I would definitely pay extra for an organic snus. Especially if it was a plain los type.

Yeah i would too. But portions...

[Mykislt]

I think that the Ettan Kardus and Grov Kardus, and Kardus superior blend could be considered "organic" since they are made by hand

[skyline142]

I think that the Ettan Kardus and Grov Kardus, and Kardus superior blend could be considered "organic" since they are made by hand

Mmmmmmm, I would have to disagree with that. I mean, I could go grab a bottle, fill it with carbonated water, add sugar, caramel color, phosphoric acid, caffiene, and natural flavors and stick my finger in it and stir; but would you call that organic?

I am aiming a more towards the actual product used, not the process on how it is made.

[GoVegan]

Mmmmmmm, I would have to disagree with that. I mean, I could go grab a bottle, fill it with carbonated water, add sugar, caramel color, phosphoric acid, caffiene, and natural flavors and stick my finger in it and stir; but would you call that organic?

I am aiming a more towards the actual product used, not the process on how it is made.

I was going to say something along the lines of grapes being picked by hand are not organic. OK the perfect los. Organic tobacco, lots of sea salt and just a hint of natural bergamot.

[skyline142]

See, the only thing I see going a bit wrong, is an anti molding property. I know salt does a fine job as a preservative, as well as lemon juice. But they use propelyn glycol so it doesnt mold, right? I am not sure a natural alternative..

I found some more 'natural' alternatives used as Humectants: Lecithin, Panthenol (pro-vitamin B5), and Glycerin.

[skyline142]

Ooo, and PG is used to keep it moist, my bad. But still, there are alternatives. The sea salt or even lemon juice prevent the molding, right?

[snusjus]

I like the idea, but could the acidity regulators and humectants ever be considered organic? I'm no chemistry major, but I'm sure someone could correct me here. Also, I love the idea of sea salt being used in snus.

Image this:

American Spirit
Perique Blend
24 Organic Snus Pouches

Yum...

[Crow]

OK the perfect los. Organic tobacco, lots of natural bergamot and just a hint of sea salt.

Fixed it for you.

[skyline142]

I like the idea, but could the acidity regulators and humectants ever be considered organic? I'm no chemistry major, but I'm sure someone could correct me here. Also, I love the idea of sea salt being used in snus.

Image this:

American Spirit
Perique Blend
24 Organic Snus Pouches

Yum...

Now, I dont think they could be considered "USDA Organic", BUT! I do believe there has to be some naturally occuring regulators. Of some sort. Even if there isn't, I just made french toast today with organic eggs, organic milk, locally made bread, organic bacon. But topped it off with NON-organic syrup, yet it still tasted many times better than using cheap gas station materials.

Xylitol is a naturally occuring humectant found in berries and corn husks. Also is a sweetener though as well. :/

[khalid]

I used to use American spirit hand rolling tobacco and quite liked the extra care and attention the tobacco needed with the absence of humectants. "To rehydrate you snus, place in an open window early in the morning to catch the ambient moisture." The acidity regulation might have to be a compromise though but I am no chemist. I love the idea of using different salts and fair trade tobacco would be welcome.

I wonder how well this would store and travel in a ready to use los or portion. Maybe an organic snus kit would work, where you add moisture and an acidity regulator.

[WickedKitchen]

Rodrick was tinkering around with flavored salts to be used in Neti Pots. (Rodrick from Toque, that is) About a year or so ago it was an idea that was being kicked around. Khalid might be on to something.

Now, I for one don't think the benefit, if any, in sea salt is worth the paper it's written on but in food I do prefer the texture. In snus, I wouldn't want a big honkin' rock of salt cutting up my gums. Processing it down would render a taste indistinguishable from regular salt and unnecessarily inflating the price. Of [coarse] that is only my opinion. I would be more turned on with a premium leaf -part snus like Kardus. I'm sure the mass-produced snus has fillers and scrap ground into it to some degree. Kardus (et al) is so damned expensive though. To get an organic snus or premium snus to the point where everyone would be able to appreciate the difference one would have to spend soo much more money to produce. It wouldn't be worth it as the cost would prohibit too many people to use it.

There are snus kits out there already too. I haven't used one but others have. Also seems like making your own from purchased [or grown] tobacco isn't extremely difficult. That's the ticket to the premium, organic, fair-trade, tree-huggin' snus that we're lookin' for. Maybe a kit that includes everything...the cooker and all might work.