Snus Price Increases Are Getting Ridiculous......

[muddyfunkstar]

Never noticed that, probably because I'm in the UK/EU, I dunno. I guess they have to do things differently for PACT in the US.

Buysnus
snus €41.84
shipping €8.25
grand total €50.09

Northerner
snus €30.25
shipping €5.43
tobacco tax €8.20
sales tax €11.06
grand total €54.99

Now, I don't know if buysnus are skipping taxes or including them in the price of the roll, but for a nearly €5 saving, that's good enough for me.

EDIT: Just read the buysnus FAQ and for the EU, taxes are included in the price. So that means Northerner are hiking their taxes.

[Premium Parrots]

I don't know about the taxes in the UK/EU. But it looks like northerner is trying to be legal all around. They are charging for the taxes but buysnus isn't. However, the price of the snus and shipping differs greatly. And the total cost is nearly the same. Thats why it looks to me like buysnus is skirting the taxes, charging nearly the same total cost and making more money per shipment. Therefore, it looks like they are taking advantage of northerners legitimacy in sales.

Northerner pays all taxes and customs clearance fees. Buysnus does not!! and therefore you could be liable for any additional fees should your buysnus shipment be scrutinized by customs officials.

Don't get me wrong.....I think they are both great suppliers. They simply conduct business differently. But it does rub me the wrong way that buysnus keeps their end price [including shipping] close to northerners and doesn't pay any of the taxes. They are making a killing when northerner is doing it legal and making a small profit. As always.....in the end surely the legal operation will be the winner. We just haven't seen the end yet.

[Veganpunk]

it was buysnus that I was referring to when I said that the price is different between the advertized price and the cart. Their prices can go up even as you are in the middle of a transaction. Before about 2 1/2 weeks ago buysnus had click snus for under $22, then it went to about $25, yesterday it went to $29.53. Thats just one random example.

I noticed that about Click. That really sucks as I was thinking it would be a cheaper alternative for Tre.

[muddyfunkstar]

I don't know about the taxes in the UK/EU. But it looks like northerner is trying to be legal all around. They are charging for the taxes but buysnus isn't. However, the price of the snus and shipping differs greatly. And the total cost is nearly the same. Thats why it looks to me like buysnus is skirting the taxes, charging nearly the same total cost and making more money per shipment. Therefore, it looks like they are taking advantage of northerners legitimacy in sales.

See my edit above re the EU, buysnus do include taxes.

This is a bit pointless really, us debating the legalities from opposite sides of the pond, when it's clearly so different

[timoteo]

yeah, boo hoo wa-wa-wa, americans have to pay more than they used too. poor babies. EU is still paying more.

[Premium Parrots]

See my edit above re the EU, buysnus do include taxes.

This is a bit pointless really, us debating the legalities from opposite sides of the pond, when it's clearly so different

Yea I checked the info that buysnus provides for US customers. It doesn't say anythiing about EU customers. But it does say that we are responsible for any customs fees etc. Sometimes i think the 2 companies and customs work together to make it so confusing that we all lose out. lol.


@ Tim.....yea I know you guys get hit terribly with taxes. We US citizens complain when gas hits $3.50 when other parts of the world pay alot more, and always have. Hell it was like $9 a gallon in Cuba......and that was like 8 years ago. It won't be long and we'll be paying $5 or more per gallon of gas.


from buysnus
If you are ordering goods for delivery, please note that your consignment may be subject to import duties and taxes, which are levied once the goods reach the country of destination. Any such charges levied in relation to customs clearance must be borne by you.

Some countries have regulations and restricted imports of the quantity of imported smokeless tobacco products and different countries have varied duty regulations. BuySnus.com does not have the possibility to provide information about customs and import regulations in the destination country. The person who orders the products are therefore personally responsible for being informed about the own country customs and import regulations that apply to Swedish snus and other tobacco products and for paying any duties, taxes, fees that might be charged. Any charges for import clearance due to the purchase from BuySnus.com will be borne by you, the customer. BuySnus shall not be liable for releasing or shipping replacement goods if they are seized in customs. You cannot get a refund if your products have been returned to us.

Please note that when shipping goods the shipments may be subject to opening and inspection by customs authorities. You are deemed to be the importer of the goods and must therefore comply with all the laws and regulations of the country into which the goods are being delivered.


On the other hand, Northerner accepts all responsibility for taxes and customs fees etc.

[timoteo]

@PP I am in America too brother, I was just jokingly obseving. But yeah, times are getting tougher by the day and it stinks.

[fishmeat]

Well, if snus is going to keep me from craving nicotine thus keeping me from smoking...I am willing to pay the price. Because when it boils down to it, its still cheaper in the long run. When you first pay on-line and or start snusing you end up buying a bunch of single cans which in its own can become very expensive. My last three orders with The Northerner have totaled about $170 all together, product, shipping, taxes. Now that I have a good idea as to what I am going to use on a daily basis that price will come down as I will buy in bulk and not need to make small orders.

The whole thing is this, some of us can go to the local corner store and buy it on the regular some can't...buying on-line is just the price to pay to play.

[Premium Parrots]

Well, if snus is going to keep me from craving nicotine thus keeping me from smoking...I am willing to pay the price. Because when it boils down to it, its still cheaper in the long run. When you first pay on-line and or start snusing you end up buying a bunch of single cans which in its own can become very expensive. My last three orders with The Northerner have totaled about $170 all together, product, shipping, taxes. Now that I have a good idea as to what I am going to use on a daily basis that price will come down as I will buy in bulk and not need to make small orders.

The whole thing is this, some of us can go to the local corner store and buy it on the regular some can't...buying on-line is just the price to pay to play.

I can go about 350 feet from the far edge of my property and get the standard general lineup at a new upscale cigar store that recently opened. But I don't use general.

For personal use any price is better than the price of cigarrettes, especially when taking your health into consideration. Therefore I really don't care too much about the price. But I buy in quanities and resell in smaller quanities to help the members here that want to try the new snus that they keep developing. So in that respect.....yea the price increases suck big time.

[LincolnSnuff]

I have ordered regularly from Buysnus post-PACT. Prior to that I used Getsnus. Since utilizing Buysnus, I always set up a comparison order at Northerner and my total cost is usually about 10% cheaper to go with Buysnus, even cheaper still if I am lucky to get a 10 for 7 deal or similar. I also watch the UPS tracking information closely. All orders show "at customs for clearance" and then "cleared customs." I have never received a letter from customs or any tax authority demanding duties or taxes. The day I do, I will gladly pay. Until then, I will keep on keepin' on with Buysnus. My theory is that smaller orders (1-5 rolls) are not worth the time and hassle for anyone to take notice.

[Premium Parrots]

Lately tho Buysnus hasn't had much in the way of buy 7 get 3 free or any other promotions. Except the thunder promo where you get 1 free. And also lately there hasn't been much on sale at buysnus either.

I used to use getsnus all the time because I would buy enough for free shipping. but those days are gone.

I feel that buysnus and northerner are watching each others prices all too closely nowadays. They are always so close in cost when you compare the cost including shipping. I won't argure with you tho.....buysnus is about 5% cheaper most all the time but I think thats only because they watch each others pricing so closely.

The last big order I made the snus I wanted was available from both outfits. Northerner was cheaper.

[gentlemanly]

Here's where I say thank you to V2 products, still between 20-25 a roll, where most SM products are about 35-40 a roll

[Monkey]

Here's where I say thank you to V2 products, still between 20-25 a roll, where most SM products are about 35-40 a roll

I concur. I have been really going through the v2 line and I can say I like a lot of their stuff.....that I wasn't too fond of when I started snusing.

[Frosted]

FYI, if paying in dollars it costs me $70 in the UK to have one roll of Thunder Frosted, taxes paid and delivered from buysnus.

It's $34.22 per roll and freight of $12.50 which leaves $23.28 in taxes.

A roll lasts me a month. If I was smoking it would cost me $276 a month to smoke in the UK.
But I agree that snus prices have been creeping up slightly.

We're paying $2.17 per litre of gas/petrol in the UK - so to fill up my car would take about 70 litres (not empty) costing $151.90.

[chadizzy1]

I want to do some research into this.

I'm curious if it's manufacturer or reseller that's doing the price increases.

Or if it's supply and demand?

Seems like a lot of us are running out of our PACT stocks right now and starting to buy again.