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  • chadizzy1
    Member
    • May 2009
    • 7432

    #31
    Originally posted by tom502 View Post
    I'm curious if the new Oden's Los will be pasturized. Personally, I don't much care, just curious, because I know some do.
    Probably not. It looks as though it's a GN Tobacco product which does that special fermentation stuff (not sure what it's called) but I've seen TSNA reports from them and though I can't publish figures I can say it's as safe as pasteurization under certain circumstances. However no studies exist currently (though one is in progress) of how long term storage affects the TSNA level.

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    • Snusdog
      Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 6752

      #32
      Pioneer is now listed as in stock over at northerner

      I will really be interested in trying this.

      Also.........I thought the new Odens...........was just the old Odens...............in a new can?

      Is there something I missed somewhere
      When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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      • tom502
        Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 8985

        #33
        snusdog, the new Odens can says Made in Sweden right on the lid, the original Odens was made in Denmark, so it's suspected it is made by GN Tobacco who makes Olde Viking, and Odens 69.

        Yeah, I saw the Pioneer was at Northerner and I ordered some, and some others I never tried before.

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        • GoVegan
          Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 5603

          #34
          This will definitely be on my next order!

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          • chadizzy1
            Member
            • May 2009
            • 7432

            #35
            Originally posted by Ansel View Post
            It's as safe as snus from Sweden though? In terms of nitrosamines etc ? :-s
            As most of you know, SM TSNA count is on average 1.0-1.5.

            I have viewed TSNA analysis from Eurofins and Pioneer is around 0.97 which puts it in the average range of most standard Swedish Snus.

            Hope this helps!

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            • GoVegan
              Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 5603

              #36
              Just curious Chad - would you say this is similar to Bla?

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              • Ansel
                Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 3696

                #37
                Originally posted by chadizzy1 View Post
                As most of you know, SM TSNA count is on average 1.0-1.5.

                I have viewed TSNA analysis from Eurofins and Pioneer is around 0.97 which puts it in the average range of most standard Swedish Snus.

                Hope this helps!
                Really, so that's good isn't it... i will try some of this on my next order, as my first los.

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                • truthwolf1
                  Member
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 2696

                  #38
                  I just saw the full lab results also and was pleased to see the 0.97

                  Order has been shipped!!

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                  • Rattlesnake
                    Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 891

                    #39
                    I seem to be confused, confused I say, I thought this was snuff not los although I suppose it could be used either way.

                    Nope I was wrong again, clicked on the link and yep it is los snus. I going nity nite now.

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                    • tom502
                      Member
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 8985

                      #40
                      They just call it Snuff, which is another word for snus. It's los snus.

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                      • Ansel
                        Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 3696

                        #41
                        And just to be a chump, can i ask would a figure such as 0.97 be fairly consistent if say a batch was tested every six months or so. I'm curious because i may end up out that part of the world one day for a while and instead of importing crazy amounts of snus it'd be nice to support the local enterprise.

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                        • tom502
                          Member
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 8985

                          #42
                          OK OK! The day has arrived, well, it came yesterday.

                          PIONEER SNUFF!

                          This is my initial review. I did try 1 prilla yesterday, but it's a new day, just got up, made some coffee.....

                          OK, the can labels are made to sell in the USA, with warnings all preprinted on the side and top. I like how the can sticker looks, simple, yet effective. The plastic can though, is a bit cheapy, but it works.

                          Opening the can, mine was a little hard as the sticker with the serrations was not on the line of the lid, but I got it open.
                          Smell, it smells great, and does smell different than Swedish made, it's a lighter yet robust smell. Very nice.
                          Looks about the same as Swedish, though it seems a little more spongey, with lots of little ball like clumps, but the moisture if fine.
                          Handbakes well, and easy.
                          Taste, this stuff is great, I have to force myself not to eat it. Has a distinct taste, similar to the smell, kinda airy, yet bold, and different than the General loose I've been using before I got this. I like this. I don't know if I can say it's better than made in Sweden snus, but it's right up there equally, yet stands out because it does have a distinct taste more of natural tobacco but of a different blend, well it's Laos grown tobacco, and yes, it is different, and very good.

                          Many new snus come and go, and some just arn't well received, like Olde Viking and Chaini Khaini, but this SHOULD be really liked. I'm getting a nic effect now, having this with my morning coffee. But this is HIGHLY recommended by me, it's great. In fact, I'd give this a 5 out of 5. Hmmm, I think it has a cigarish taste.

                          New loose snus from Laos, Pioneer Snuff, great great item.

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                          • Rattlesnake
                            Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 891

                            #43
                            Good review and recommendation Tom. It is now on my order list.

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                            • truthwolf1
                              Member
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 2696

                              #44
                              Northerner description: Pure Tobacco, Citrus, smokearoma

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                              • tom502
                                Member
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 8985

                                #45
                                I'm not a heavy user, so the 2 cans I got will last me a while, plus I bought along with these some other snus I had never tried, Landstroms, Gullivares, General Extra Sterk, plus I had some General Loose already, but this Pioneer is definately one I'd buy again. I just spit out that horrid Chaini Khani Mango, which I just reviewed, and am making lunch, but afterwards, I can't wait to put in some more of this Pioneer.

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