Du you live in EU and can not buy in Sweden? No problem :)

[Mordred]

I do not propose buying snus from me but service - "going to shop abroad and buying snus in a name of a customer"
Now I'm digging in Polish law. I do not see any regulations that can ban my business idea. But I have to obtain official declaration from the Customs it there any restrictions or duties. Because it will be services offered by officialy registered business / all taxes paid. So it will takes a few days.

This is the kind of loophole that will only work as long as nobody's looking too close imho.

[pantaqruel]

Buying on behalf of customer. In this case you could buy for me some cannabis in XXX. Try to bring it to Poland

If you buy on behalf - you import. Problem is, that snus cannot be bought for export.

We can only make "friendship", and designate you as a person that is buying snus as a gift for me (f.ex.) No money are involved, because you passing the border with a gifts for your friends with the limitation of 1 kg (as I remember - it could has changed) . How I will gratitude my friendship with you it is not a business of customs, but only tax office in case if I will be too graceful.

[Mazur]

Buying on behalf of customer. In this case you could buy for me some cannabis in XXX. Try to bring it to Poland

Crossing border with cannabis is illegal. With snus it is legal. Question is if there are some restrictions for quantity or any duties to pay.
Everything which is not forbidden is allowed. As for now I do not see any law that forbid me to do that. But I still digging...

[precious007]

Crossing border with cannabis is illegal. With snus it is legal. Question is if there are some restrictions for quantity or any duties to pay.
Everything which is not forbidden is allowed. As for now I do not see any law that forbid me to do that. But I still digging...

Check with your local customs.

It differers from country to country.

Google - Tobacco Restrictions Poland :^)

[pantaqruel]

Crossing border with cannabis is illegal. With snus it is legal. Question is if there are some restrictions for quantity or any duties to pay. ..

We have limitation of 1 kg tobacco (4 rolls)
http://europa.eu/travel/shop/index_pl.htm

[Mazur]

1) According to regulations mentioned quantities apply to excise goods.
2) It concerns tobacco for private use and not tobacco transit.
Both points are not the case. So I'm digging law much deeper now.

[bighi]

Everything which is not forbidden is allowed. As for now I do not see any law that forbid me to do that. But I still digging...

I got a laugh out of this. This is definitely not something you would hear in Germany or perhaps anywhere in the German speaking world. Even though this is other topic, my German friends and I were just discussing this same concept today. In France, Italy, Netherlands, England or the United States of freedom myths, where I used to live, this rule applies. It has to unless one wants to keep getting kicked in the ass by big brother. In Germanic world, if it is not "expressly allowed" they might not take the risks. A generalization, of course, but when you spend enough time around these parts getting licenses to do dangerous things like playing golf, you start to notice the tides.

Anyway, good job Mazur. I like this gung-ho ballsy attitude. You should see the crazy creative theatrics I am going through in order to import a car with drastically reduced taxes. At one point I had three guys at Salzburg Zollamt sititng down at a table riffling through books as fast as they could in order to close the holes I found in the laws. Apparently I was the first guy that did this . So I completely understand your homework there and highly respect what you are doing.

[precious007]

We have limitation of 1 kg tobacco (4 rolls)
http://europa.eu/travel/shop/index_pl.htm

or 2 rolls or loose snus

[Mazur]

license for playing golf !? - if I will tell about that to my friends in Poland, noone will believe. We have too much licences here but nothing such absurd like this one.
But we have, for example, law that force amateur fishermen to register each fish caught.

[Mazur]

Hi precious007,

I have question. Maybe you know an answer?

I was at January at Bucharest. I have drink tuica and hot wine in public park near the Palace.
Do tuica sellers in stalls need some licence for that?

And where in Bucharest one can buy real homemade Tuica 60-70% ?

[bighi]

German golf license.
http://torw1n.blogspot.com/2009/09/g...f-license.html
It's some funny stuff. Of course, one can always vote if they don't like this sort of thing. But that's theoretical. After all, somehow I don't think there will be any less bureaucracy after the voting last weekend. But hey, they voted. By comparison this is why Italians, even when complaining, allowed Berlusconi in there for so long. Cause as bad as it is, when politicians get away with that sort of behavior, chances are nobody is going to bug you about some little wastes of paper and time like golf license and the salaries for the paperwork. Better to make big complaints to la dolce vita bon vivant in charge than having somebody else who might spoil the people's personal fun.

[precious007]

Hi precious007,

I have question. Maybe you know an answer?

I was at January at Bucharest. I have drink tuica and hot wine in public park near the Palace.
Do tuica sellers in stalls need some licence for that?

And where in Bucharest one can buy real homemade Tuica 60-70% ?

yes you do need a PFA or SRL (company) to sell alcohol beverages on public domains (it's a special licence), it doesn't cost more than $1000 or so to set it up and all the paper work.

I don't know much about tuica because I hate it lol ... do you like it? (I only like tuica made out of pears that is strongly perfumed and only take a single small shot before meals)

You can buy the best tuica from the farmers in the country side, the one that comes commercial isn't that tasty... in Cluj and around Cluj they have the best tuica tradition. If you're interested I can find out who is selling homemade tuica and give their contacts to you :^)

But we have, for example, law that force amateur fishermen to register each fish caught.

it's getting pretty tough in Romania as well, but your know ..... if you have the money almost anything is possible :^) lol

you need a licence for everything here............ even if you want to work as a cook you need a licence.... if you want to open a pharmacy you need to have a pharmacy degree .. if you know what I mean..... Romania isn't a place for business anymore...

[Mazur]

Thanks for all info.
Commercial tuica is not the best indeed. But I think that homemade would be delicious. As slivovitza in other countries.

I considerer Romania as relatively free country with less bureaucracy than in other EU countries. As I saw you have still big potential for develop, especially in tourist area. And Romania have friendly business environment I suppose.
But it probably will worsen, like in Poland - more laws, more taxes, more bureaucracy, more public debt, more problems...

[precious007]

Thanks for all info.
Commercial tuica is not the best indeed. But I think that homemade would be delicious. As slivovitza in other countries.

I considerer Romania as relatively free country with less bureaucracy than in other EU countries. As I saw you have still big potential for develop, especially in tourist area. And Romania have friendly business environment I suppose.
But it probably will worsen, like in Poland - more laws, more taxes, more bureaucracy, more public debt, more problems...

it's getting steep in Romania too, there's dozens of businesses closing down since the economical crises started. It won't be that friendly anymore since Romania has at some point to cut down the fraud and corruption at any cost or it will not evolve financially as a country or in the business field. There are big firms that have left Romania since the crises.... by the way yesterday I was taking a walk in the Neighbourhood and there were these coco-cola vans everywhere..... I was like What the heck is this?

I never seen Coca-Cola giving out 2L bottles, I mean literally they were dozens of people giving out coca-cola bottles lol, you know why?

there's a paranoia with the "Codex Alimentarius" going on at the moment right here and everyone is eating BIO, all these shops poped-up hence coca-cola is slowly losing tons of teritory in Romania.

[pantaqruel]

There are already in PL few forms of distribution of snus. One of them was a kind of your thinking. Unfortunately it is closed down, because it was ordering on behalf of customer through Northerner .
I just would like to point the weaknesses, not to kill your idea.
Of course you are right, that tobacco "not for smoking" is not present in polish tariff. As a transport company you have to place the order somewhere if you are buying on behalf of customer - that was the weak point of internet stores.
At the shop in Sweden nobody cares who you are, where you will use snus, and what will happen. But then you have to cross the border, and then.. what will happen? How you will explain that snus in houdreds of kilograms is leaving Sweden? The only explanation can be... for your own use or.. on behalf of client (that will be quite interesting for guard duty). Other way is to fill SAD or Interstat (if you will get some turnover) and you will be forced to show, that you transport snus. Later they will find out that it includes tobacco, and... you will be treated as previously was treated distributors of perfumes that included alcohol.
Own use solving the problem, therefore I stressed the "gift" and "friendship" as a possible solution.
The question is: where is the responsibility? Me as a customer? No. Shop in Sweden? Yes, but they will stress, that they had no idea that this snus will leave their lovely country.
Where in polish law there is presence of snus? Only in one - "art. 7 p. 1" Health Protection Act, unfortunately pointing the distribution of such goods. This one is a crime in Poland.

Sooner or later, EU bureaucracy will allow to buy snus at the shops in Sweden only for swedish citizens