Philip Morris 1847

[Zofryer]

Not really 'cheeky' ... just good business.

PM openly states their business model in all emerging markets is to copy the most popular product and improve on it by using their expertise. I expect this will be a very good snus.
My 2c.

Hmm, so we can expect a general-ish taste with hints of vagina.

[Zero]

Not really 'cheeky' ... just good business.

PM openly states their business model in all emerging markets is to copy the most popular product and improve on it by using their expertise. I expect this will be a very good snus.

This is why Marlboro taste so different depending on what region you buy them in... Hence Marlboro Lights (US) are completely different to Lights (Euro).

My 2c.

I think there are European regulations on cigarettes that differ from those in America, though, as well. The TNCO (Tar, Nicotine, Carbon Monoxide) ceiling is 10mg/1mg/10mg across the board in Europe while in America I know for certain that there are many cigarettes which are above those levels, even brand-for-brand when they're lower in Europe for the same cigs. That may have something to do with it.

I agree that it could very well be a great snus, mind you. I'm not one to judge a book by its cover even though I might be one to judge the cover :wink:

[TropicalBob]

Well, these strike the fear of God in me. Metal container? In my left rear Levi pocket? This part of the U.S. is the Lightning Capital of the World. Something like 7 strikes per acre each summer. If you read of someone zapped in the ass in Florida, it could be me trying this attractive new snus in its metal can.

[MN_Snuser]

Not really 'cheeky' ... just good business.

PM openly states their business model in all emerging markets is to copy the most popular product and improve on it by using their expertise. I expect this will be a very good snus.
My 2c.

Hmm, so we can expect a general-ish taste with hints of vagina.

Zofryer wins the thread !

[itchystiches]

Haha... Yes I think that was what you could call a final comeback

Point taken.

I think you're right about the ceilings Zero, although I do know that the testing is not standardized so what is 'one puff' on the US system maybe a bigger 'puff' than what the Euro smoke testers use. I used to smoke Kool's back in the day, and I know they were like 17mg tar which is far higher than any rating you'd find in the EU.

Having said this, I find the EU Marlboro lights to much stronger tasting than the US ones.

Either way, I really hope this PM snus is a good product. The tin looks amazing, although I have to agree with zof that there is a certain cosmic force acting on the tastebuds with regards to the tin :P

Peace!

[Zeno]

If this nicotine limit in europe exists, it does not apply for Germany and Switzerland. There you can get quite strong cig brands way over the limit Zero has mentioned. And still the Marlboros and Camels taste different here than in the US.

[CWC]

I would have to agree with Zeno, although it has been a long time since I had any tobacco products from Germany, what I have had was pretty darn powerful. About 15 years ago, a German guy let me bum a cig off him, I have no idea what the brand was but it knocked me down. I was smoking Pall Malls nonfiltered at the time, the German cig had a filter. Don't know what the heck was in it but I did not bum a second. Then a few years back in Sweden I tried some cheap German cigars, didn't care for those either but I would not say they were week, just nasty. Mind you I love many German things but smoking tobacco is not one of them.

[['nju:bI]]

If this nicotine limit in europe exists, it does not apply for Germany and Switzerland. There you can get quite strong cig brands way over the limit Zero has mentioned. And still the Marlboros and Camels taste different here than in the US.

That's by-gone. Nowadays, there seems to be limit here in Germany as well. Don't know the numbers, because I don't smoke anymore, but the last Benson & Hedges I smoked was at least 30% weaker than the stuff I used to smoke five years ago. I think the limit is around 10/1 (tar/nicotine) here as well.

[chainsnuser]

Yeah, a cigarette is limited to 1.0mg in Germany since 2004. German politicians are traditionally tobacco-friendly, especially the old ones, who remembered being ruled by a tobacco-hating, psychotic dictator, but nowadays some also-not-democratically-elected pencil-pushers in Brussels have all the power.

Even my last package of "Eckstein", that I smoked two years ago only had 1.0mg of nicotine left. "Eckstein" formerly was a real killer-brand. "Roth-Händle" and "Schwarzer Krauser" are other famous (formerly) strong brands.

I really hope that there never will be a law, that limits the nicotine-content of snus-brands.

Cheers!

[Zeno]

Yeah, a cigarette is limited to 1.0mg in Germany since 2004.

Even my last package of "Eckstein", that I smoked two years ago only had 1.0mg of nicotine left. "Eckstein" formerly was a real killer-brand. "Roth-Händle" and "Schwarzer Krauser" are other famous (formerly) strong brands.

Cheers!

??? Now I'm confused. :?
I've used to smoke "Roth-Händle" "Reval without filter" and "Schwarzer Krauser" before I quit for Snus this year. Probably this law does not apply to Baden (a state in Germany)?

[chainsnuser]

Haha, well Zeno, I didn't say former brands but former strong brands.:wink:
Did they have more than 1.0mg of nicotine? If so, then you've bought some very old packages.

Cheers!

[Slydel]

If all good tobacco comes in metal tins than Offroad must have been some of the best tobacco out there, though they are no longer put in metal. Has it been a year, six months?