Swedish snus could be banned

[squeezyjohn]

Well, what does this mean for the USA?

Probably nothing in the short term.

If the EU ban these things and Sweden stays in with no exemption - no Swedish made snus will be able to contain the current flavourings and so will disappear. I can't see that happening really.

For us in the rest of the EU - it probably means no snus at all ever again ... unless we make it ourselves.

:-(

[Tom200]

Probably nothing in the short term.

If the EU ban these things and Sweden stays in with no exemption - no Swedish made snus will be able to contain the current flavourings and so will disappear. I can't see that happening really.

For us in the rest of the EU - it probably means no snus at all ever again ... unless we make it ourselves.

:-(

Sadly this is for all countries in the EU. Leaving the EU because of this is very unlikely.

I really hope Swedish politicians do what they can to stop it. It said in the article that all swedish members of the EU parliament will vote against it but I'm not so sure.

Here in Sweden politicians and others in authority seem to think all tobacco is bad. That it isn't better to use snus instead of smoking.

An example of this is that when they raise the taxes on cigarettes they also raise it on snus. That's why the snus-prices are so high here now.

The only things the politicians care about is getting elected and getting tax money. An honest politician would promote snus (in Sweden) as a safer alternativ to smoking but I haven't seen it yet.

That Sweden got to keep snus when we joined the EU is because the politicians knew many would vote against EU if was banned.

So to keep getting tax money from snusers, get re-elected, keeping people in the snus industry employed etc are the only things that could motivate our politicians to stop this new law.

[Ansel]

We can still have Swedish snus without these additives can't we?

[Snusdog]

First..........Jan................good to see you back and posting............I hope all is well

Second..........this whole thing is sheer insanity

The illogic and utter lack of moral center that pervades so many of the would be social crusaders of our day utterly baffles me.

It is the feminization of society.....................while conversely.........the family unit becomes progressively more violent

[precious007]

Yeah it occasionaaly pops up in news that police got another high school student who sold used portions to younger boys. It reminds me smokers who leave a cig to eachother, seems that we have to do the same thing, keep it under for 30 min and then give it to your buddy.

sick man

used portions?

[Fazer]

We can still have Swedish snus without these additives can't we?

I'm not so sure mate. If you look at that google translation it says ... It affects the entire Swedish Match portfolio, and they're not sure if they can replace the proposed aromas. If they can't pull it off, what chance does the smaller companies have

[Fazer]

http://www.snuscentral.org/latest-sn...inst-snus.html

[Tom200]

What I think is that if it should come to the worst swedish snus could still be manufactured without these additives. Downside is it would taste differently. Some brands that have been made for nearly 200 years would go out of production.

Relocating production to a non-EU country like Norway? Not sure if it's possible and still won't help if sale of products with these additives are banned.

[Ansel]

Can they ban the Northerner/Oomph purified? Because technically they are not tobacco. And therefore if they were to ban additives from these then they would have ban flavoured nicotine gum etc wouldn't they?

[Ansel]

Can they ban the Northerner/Oomph purified? Because technically they are not tobacco. And therefore if they were to ban additives from these then they would have ban flavoured nicotine gum etc wouldn't they?

Moreover, could this legally be sold throughout the EU anyway as it is not tobacco is it?

[Fazer]

I just love the last couple lines of this blog

"When anti-smoking groups start helping the cigarette industry, it might be time to stop and rethink the strategy"

http://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot....ohibition.html

[pris]

Sounds like a back-door idea on how to ban snus. No flavours, plain packaging, only sold from behind closed cabinets, why not try some NRT instead, think of the children etc.

Hopefully Sweden will stand up for it's long time tradition in the EU parliament.

[Jan]

I was just thinking... would it be possible perhaps to approach this subject from a slightly different angle.... Swedish snus has been recognized by EU as a "cultural things", part of Swedish way of life, a very special heritage and so on.... based on this definition people who use snus , regardless of their country of residence or passports held, are ... swedish (at least to some extent, right?). Are not we as a swedish minority in our respective EU countries entitled to protection of our minority rights??? I am not suggesting legalization of snus (even though that would be the best solution for everybody), what I am referring to is our rights to source the stuff online in order for us to continue with our "swedishness". I know this may sound stupid but that's how I see all this.
It was announced in a German newspaper a few days ago that the small salafist (islamic radicalist) community of merely 4 000 people does not pose danger to security and democracy in Germany and can therefore be tolerated (you might have heard that they are involved in recruiting home and foreign born germans alike to join radicalist groups in Germany, people many of whom are on international terror watch lists). Do the decision makers in Brussels really think that 4 000 or so small SNUSING community of Germany (or of Britain, Denmark.. does not matter) poses a more serious threat to the public than that of the salafists and the level of threat has reached a point when an action in form of new EU directives, bans, etc is required?
Where is logic????????????

[lxskllr]

I was just thinking... would it be possible perhaps to approach this subject from a slightly different angle.... Swedish snus has been recognized by EU as a "cultural things", part of Swedish way of life, a very special heritage and so on.... based on this definition people who use snus , regardless of their country of residence or passports held, are ... swedish (at least to some extent, right?). Are not we as a swedish minority in our respective EU countries entitled to protection of our minority rights??? I am not suggesting legalization of snus (even though that would be the best solution for everybody), what I am referring to is our rights to source the stuff online in order for us to continue with our "swedishness". I know this may sound stupid but that's how I see all this.
It was announced in a German newspaper a few days ago that the small salafist (islamic radicalist) community of merely 4 000 people does not pose danger to security and democracy in Germany and can therefore be tolerated (you might have heard that they are involved in recruiting home and foreign born germans alike to join radicalist groups in Germany, people many of whom are on international terror watch lists). Do the decision makers in Brussels really think that 4 000 or so small SNUSING community of Germany (or of Britain, Denmark.. does not matter) poses a more serious threat to the public than that of the salafists and the level of threat has reached a point when an action in form of new EU directives, bans, etc is required?
Where is logic????????????

That's an interesting thought. You could also play off the religious angle. Create a religion, and mandate snus use as a sacrament. I don't know about the EU, but I think that could gain some traction in the USA. It would take some fighting, but it should be a winnable approach. I'd suggest a splinter Discordian group, where the hotdog is replaced with snus :^)

[Jan]

That's an interesting thought. You could also play off the religious angle. Create a religion, and mandate snus use as a sacrament. )

GN, Gajane - AKBAR!