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  • King Burger
    Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 23

    Too much nicotine

    So the past couple of days of using snus only I've probably used about 10 or more portions a day and I seem to be getting way too much nicotine as I have a bad headache and am very jittery most of the time. I'm using the general classic blend and nordic mint which is I believe 7 mg of nicotine. I'm curious, do the snus manufacturers list the nicotine content that will be absorbed? Or the actual amount that is in the snus? Because cigarettes list the nicotine amount that is roughly absorbed when there is actually more, so I'm thinking that snus might be the same way? It just seems really strong... I know I should probably try and use less but I do like the feeling of having a snus in and getting the flavor. I'm really looking for something with just the bare minimum amount of nicotine to take care of cravings but not give me any kind of hit or rush.
  • spirit72
    Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 1013

    #2
    I believe they mostly list the total nicotine content per portion, and not the amount of 'free' nicotine. I think I read that you'll absorb about half that, maybe more depending on how long you keep a portion in.

    Thing is, it's a more sustained flow with snus as opposed to cigs. Cigs are engineered to both help you get the nicotine quickly, and then metabolize it quickly so that you want another cig.

    Try waiting to use a portion until you feel you really need it...space them out as well as you can.... and then keep it in for no longer than 30 minutes. See how that goes for ya.


    And if that doesn't work, try mini portions!

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    • heders
      Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 2227

      #3
      Originally posted by King Burger
      So the past couple of days of using snus only I've probably used about 10 or more portions a day and I seem to be getting way too much nicotine as I have a bad headache and am very jittery most of the time. I'm using the general classic blend and nordic mint which is I believe 7 mg of nicotine. I'm curious, do the snus manufacturers list the nicotine content that will be absorbed? Or the actual amount that is in the snus? Because cigarettes list the nicotine amount that is roughly absorbed when there is actually more, so I'm thinking that snus might be the same way? It just seems really strong... I know I should probably try and use less but I do like the feeling of having a snus in and getting the flavor. I'm really looking for something with just the bare minimum amount of nicotine to take care of cravings but not give me any kind of hit or rush.
      Amen. I would also like a snus with the same taste but less nicotine. I snus mainly for the taste and feel anyways. I could easily do with mini portions if they weren't that expensive.

      Right now I chainsnus. Only time I don't have a portion/prilla under my lip is when I'm eating or sleeping. I can sometimes feel it being to strong though, especially when I mix in strong/extra strong portions. Talk about jitteriness.

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      • stubby2
        Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 436

        #4
        The studies are showing that about 15% to 30% of nicotine is absorbed with snus. Thats a bit better then the 10% absorption rate of cigarettes. It is different though as cigarettes will give a hugh spike and then drop fairly quickly, while snus is much more even. It absorbs slower, but last a good deal longer so the two are note really directly comparable. Everyone has different tolerances for nicotine. You just have to experiment and find what works for you. If you are getting jittery its either to much or to little. You just have to figure out which one.

        I only do about 5 grams of standard snus a day, supplemented with nasal snuff. If I'm dong a heavier snuff day I back off on the snus. As mentioned, just wait longer between portions. You could probably easily cut down a good deal and not feel any cravings. It's also not uncommon for people to use more then needed when they first quit smoking to try and compensate for the quick hit of cigarettes, ​but after the adjustment its quite easy to cut down on the amount of snus.

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        • Crow
          Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 4312

          #5
          Yeah, I think I need to cut down... I've been snussing a lot lately (at 22mg per portion). I might need to cut down on my use or switch to the low nicotine Oden's.
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          • heders
            Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 2227

            #6
            Snus is insanely hard to cut down on, at least for me. When I pop in a snus, 80% of the times I do it for the flavor; I crave it all the time. If only the nicotine of snus was in the equation, my usage would drop like crazy, because nicotine-wise, I do feel satisfied for a long time after a portion/prilla. But the flavor... agghh!

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            • King Burger
              Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 23

              #7
              Okay I found a place which had the general dry mint minis. I like these much better, not overpowering and doesn't give me a headache or make me anxious. Pretty much just satisfies my cravings which is what I want. They are more comfortable as well. I believe they are 4 mg. I also noticed northerner has their own brand of snus at 3 mg. I might order some of those, has anyone tried them?

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              • heders
                Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 2227

                #8
                Originally posted by King Burger
                Okay I found a place which had the general dry mint minis. I like these much better, not overpowering and doesn't give me a headache or make me anxious. Pretty much just satisfies my cravings which is what I want. They are more comfortable as well. I believe they are 4 mg. I also noticed northerner has their own brand of snus at 3 mg. I might order some of those, has anyone tried them?
                I'm considering switching to minis as well and start vaping more instead. The price on mini portions is ridiculous though; you certanily don't get value for your money, and with snus prices already too high, I'd rather get 24 grams of snus for a few SEK more than 10 grams of snus. Really sucks.

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                • Skell18
                  Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 7067

                  #9
                  Originally posted by heders
                  I'm considering switching to minis as well and start vaping more instead. The price on mini portions is ridiculous though; you certanily don't get value for your money, and with snus prices already too high, I'd rather get 24 grams of snus for a few SEK more than 10 grams of snus. Really sucks.
                  I found I went through a can of minis faster than regulars and ended up doubling up with them. The thunder frosted minis are the same as a regular (8mg nic) so may aswell get an offroad frosted for half the price.

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                  • crullers
                    Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 663

                    #10
                    Originally posted by King Burger
                    Okay I found a place which had the general dry mint minis. I like these much better, not overpowering and doesn't give me a headache or make me anxious. Pretty much just satisfies my cravings which is what I want. They are more comfortable as well. I believe they are 4 mg. I also noticed northerner has their own brand of snus at 3 mg. I might order some of those, has anyone tried them?
                    Yes, my wife uses the 3mg Citrus/Menthol. They taste pretty good but it's a subdued flavour. I get more citrus than menthol although there is a little cooling sensation on the gums. She went from 8mg snus to quit smoking down to the 6mg Northerner and now the 3mg. Not enough nic for me at the moment but they taste pretty decent.

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                    • Darwin
                      Member
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 1372

                      #11
                      Experimentation such as this is vital. There is absolutely no way to tell in advance how much nic any given person can tolerate or enjoy. I've seen a 150 pound dipper double-barrel Thunder Raws and not blink an eyelash while conversely I've seen a 300 pound three pack a day smoker nearly needing to puke from a single Mini-mint.

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                      • Brutecraft
                        Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 43

                        #12
                        adding on to this i've recently been loving los so much more (more juice and better feel) and now tonight for the first time I put in 2 reg portions at the same time.

                        any of you double portion or more? it seems really stupid and i need to cut back some.

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                        • King Burger
                          Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 23

                          #13
                          I've never double portioned and have never tried los but was curious is it basically like dipping? I've never dipped but my brother did and he would just take a huge chunk out of the can and shove it in his mouth it was really nasty. And how do you know how much nicotine your getting with los? Is there different strengths and a way to measure out a certain amount? I'd be interested in some low nic los if there is any.

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                          • heders
                            Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 2227

                            #14
                            Originally posted by King Burger
                            I've never double portioned and have never tried los but was curious is it basically like dipping? I've never dipped but my brother did and he would just take a huge chunk out of the can and shove it in his mouth it was really nasty. And how do you know how much nicotine your getting with los? Is there different strengths and a way to measure out a certain amount? I'd be interested in some low nic los if there is any.
                            There's no low nicotine strength lös snuses, but there are regular strength at 8 mg. You can measure the size with an ice tool, but I prefer hand baking it. If it's a little bigger or a little smaller for every prilla really doesn't matter to me. What's good about lös is that you can regulate the size of it, to suit every mood and occassion (i.e: a big ass prilla when you're having a beer, or a small one before you're going to sleep). You can do like your brother and just shove a chunk in (called hillbilly pinch), or, you can bake a prilla and form it in to whatever shape you want so it stays together better.

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                            • heders
                              Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 2227

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Brutecraft
                              adding on to this i've recently been loving los so much more (more juice and better feel) and now tonight for the first time I put in 2 reg portions at the same time.

                              any of you double portion or more? it seems really stupid and i need to cut back some.
                              There was one guy here (Snusoff I believe) who used I think three-four Thunder Frosted (16 mg/g) portions at a time. Or it was an Asian dude who was also on the forum before, can't remember... So yes, you're not alone. I used to do that before as well, but I found it not worth it. It gets too expensive, and I prefer to change portion more often to get a fresh flavor instead of wasting two at a time.

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