Fake snus

[CzechCzar]

So, in my recent order, I got some Olde Ving snus. Got through half a can, it tasted good but left an odd taste in my mouth (that's what she said). Then I read the snubie reviews, and found out that it is cured rather than pasteurized. wt****ing-f. I originally adopted snus as a habit because it is practically benign. I don't want to run any risks associated with cured snus. Cured snus = fake snus IMHO.

So, what other snuses are not pasteurized? What should I avoid? Will I have to throw out half my collection?

[Crow]

Is it cured? I had no idea, I've yet to try Olde Víkingur.

[lxskllr]

I wouldn't be too concerned about it. GN snus is on par with industry standards as far as TSNA count goes. You probably want to keep it chilled. TSNA counts may rise over time, but I don't know that for fact. I haven't seen figures for old GN snus. Fermenting tobacco is the traditional way of making snus. I wouldn't call it fake. Gellivare uses fermentation, and I wouldn't be surprised if Pioneer did also.

[dman21]

Does this Old Ving snus taste similar to dip? I know dip is fermented as opposed to steam cured like most snus is

[lxskllr]

Does this Old Ving snus taste similar to dip? I know dip is fermented as opposed to steam cured like most snus is

No, I don't think it tastes at all like dip. I think they use a hybrid process that's somewhat pasteurization-like, where dip uses a full fermentation method.

[dman21]

Hmm...interesting. Taste wise though, what is it like?

[lxskllr]

Hmm...interesting. Taste wise though, what is it like?

Like any other snus. The Old Ving Original is kind of General-like. I haven't had it in awhile. I don't use many portions, and GN has been concentrating on stark snus, which I don't use either. I like what he's doing though, and once he gets more normal strength lössnus, I expect I'll use it a good bit more.

[dman21]

I see. Does GN make any regular strength portions?

[lxskllr]

I see. Does GN make any regular strength portions?

Old Ving, Odens 69, Odens Cold, *Odens Original, *Odens Licorice

*These may be contract made. I don't know if they're made by GN, or not.

[Snusdog]

Yea this was discussed to some degree a while back and like Lx said GN's TSNA levels are snus levels.

Remember, there is more to dip than just the TSNA levels.

I use GN products regularly (as I type I have a pris of Extreme los in) without a worry........in fact somebody correct me if I am wrong...........but GN could not produce his snus in Sweden and call it snus unless it complied with the purity standards that regulate the entire snus industry.

After dipping for 25+ years and using GN's products since they came out.....I can tell you first hand that there is no comparison between dip and GN's snus............no dip lip.........no extra whatever that you find in dip..........just great well-made snus


As far as the flavor goes............I love Old V(ik)ing...........it is deep and rich and extremely good


Enjoy it

[wa3zrm]

As far as the flavor goes............I love Old V(ik)ing...........it is deep and rich and extremely good

^ +1

[Thunder_Snus]

Yea this was discussed to some degree a while back and like Lx said GN's TSNA levels are snus levels.

Remember, there is more to dip than just the TSNA levels.

I use GN products regularly (as I type I have a pris of Extreme los in) without a worry........in fact somebody correct me if I am wrong...........but GN could not produce his snus in Sweden and call it snus unless it complied with the purity standards that regulate the entire snus industry.

After dipping for 25+ years and using GN's products since they came out.....I can tell you first hand that there is no comparison between dip and GN's snus............no dip lip.........no extra whatever that you find in dip..........just great well-made snus


As far as the flavor goes............I love Old V(ik)ing...........it is deep and rich and extremely good


Enjoy it

I actually read about this fermentation too on i believe maybe chads blog/review site. I ended up ordering some and all the portions were extremely dry i dont know if thats a GN problem or a northerner problem but i didnt like it. And I can also personally attest to the difference between snus and dip. Pardon my languange but my bottom lip looked like an old womans vagina after years of dip use, with snus its not even there. If i have some particuarly moist los i might get some wrinklage on my mouth like when you stick a lollipop in the corner of your mouth for awhile but its gone in a few minutes.

[Mrobin52]

The way I understand the fermentation process that GN uses, it seems to accomplish the same thing as pasteurization. I think it just takes longer. Maybe GN will chime in and tell me if I'm wrong but American Dip is like a regular potato chip, GN snus is like a baked potato chip. Dip is fermented at room temperature, thus allowing all kinds of nasties to grow. GN snus is fermented at a fairly high heat but not flame hot, ca. 200 degrees Fahrenheit I think. So it kills micro organisms but it takes more time than steam pasteurization. The reason for this is tradition and lower overhead costs. The bigger companies can afford to buy the equipment necessary to pasteurize, and they save time and increase production in the long term. Hopefully that helps.

[Thunder_Snus]

just took some old viking out of my freezer to try (ginger lime) its ok but its certainly something i would wait to use until Im out of everything else and am waiting on an order to come in.

[Skell18]

Is it cured? I had no idea, I've yet to try Olde Víkingur.

Try it now!! I have been on it all week, just finished the can, I bloody love it! It has a very rich flavour, more peppery than General and the exact right amount of salt. It has a spot in my regular re-order list!