EU Tobacco Directive Leaked

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  • whalen
    Member
    • May 2009
    • 6593

    #16
    Is it my imagination or is the EU Tobacco directive the very same thing as a gay porn script, The one where they tell you they want to play naked leap frog, and you get to go second? Or that scene from GN's Mexican jail scenario in which Extreme meets the Polar bear?
    wiki "Popcorn Sutton" a true COOT!

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    • spirit72
      Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 1013

      #17
      Originally posted by LordJ
      I feel really bad for Toque if this happens. Roderick has built a great business from nothing, and if I'm not mistaken this would shut him down.
      Or it may help knock the UK out of the EU.

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      • sharesnusinfo!
        Member
        • May 2008
        • 477

        #18
        another link here: http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article15448816.ab
        /Jimi

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        • Snusdog
          Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 6752

          #19
          Man............this is utter crap

          A society cannot continue when its policies are made in this manner (regardless of what the policies are)…………eventually the “note” comes due
          When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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          • pris

            #20
            Does anyone have an English translation please?

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            • bill77.017
              Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 2279

              #21
              Originally posted by Snusdog
              Man............this is utter crap

              A society cannot continue when its policies are made in this manner (regardless of what the policies are)…………eventually the “note” comes due
              True Snusdog. They couldn't give two f**ks about their citizens, and all the evidence is there staring them in the face concerning Snus and it's health benefits. The EU is the worst thing to ever happen for all the countries involved on many levels.

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              • Frosted
                Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 5798

                #22
                Welcome back Bill. Hope yer grand.
                Welcome to the cluster**ck

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                • Snusdog
                  Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 6752

                  #23
                  Originally posted by pris
                  Does anyone have an English translation please?
                  I used google translate...........it's a bit choppy.....but it will give you the gist
                  When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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                  • pris

                    #24
                    Thanks Dog, Yeah I tried that but just get
                    Sorry, we are unable to translate the page you requested.

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                    • bill77.017
                      Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 2279

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Extreme
                      Welcome back Bill. Hope yer grand.
                      Welcome to the cluster**ck
                      Lol thanks brother. I've missed all the craic!!

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                      • chainsnuser
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 1388

                        #26
                        Originally posted by pris
                        Sorry, we are unable to translate the page you requested.
                        You have to let google translate the text alone, not the full page. Copy & paste the text into google's translator.

                        Here's what I got:
                        Home / News 2012-09-16
                        So darkened the snuff report
                        EU research did not appear to tobacco opponents on the lip - then they started to go loose with Tipp-ex
                        Cheating with RESULTS Anti-snuff lobbyists ENSP was commissioned by the European Commission to identify snus in Europe. They in turn hired a Dutch company - which in its report concluded that snus ban should be lifted across the EU. ENSP struck rear, and began to remove the documents. Cheating with RESULTS Anti-snuff lobbyists ENSP was commissioned by the European Commission to identify snus in Europe. They in turn hired a Dutch company - which in its report concluded that snus ban should be lifted across the EU. ENSP struck rear, and began to remove the documents.

                        The EU Commission threatens to ban the Swedish snus.

                        But Aftonbladet can reveal that a large part of the EU's knowledge of snuff based on a distorted censored report.

                        - It went so far as to pitch exade away a section of the report, said a source with great transparency.
                        Facts
                        Banned in the EU since 1992

                        The sale of snus is banned in the EU since 1992.

                        When Sweden joined the European Union had to be a permanent exemption from the ban on condition that they do not sell snuff to other EU countries.

                        In April 2012 Aftonbladet revealed that the European Parliament a proposal to ban the flavoring of tobacco. It would effectively ban the Swedish snus with condiments. New unit faced massive criticism.

                        In 2003, ENSP, The European Network for Smoking and Tobacco Prevention, commissioned by the European Commission to write a report on Swedish snus.

                        The work was contracted out to the Dutch company Research voor Beleid. The Dutch arrived in the report "Lifting the ban on oral tobacco" concluded that snus ban should be lifted across the EU.

                        But when ENSP got the document, whose content was at odds with their own beliefs, they wrote about the report. Rather presented a completely different conclusion. Namely that snus is dangerous and causes cancer of the oral cavity.
                        Extensive censorship

                        The new report was named "Status report on oral tobacco."

                        Aftonbladet have read both documents. Several pieces have been removed from the original report. Among other things, that the criticism of Swedish snus also be directed toward nicotine replacement products.

                        But censorship would prove to be even more extensive.

                        After the final report "washed" and reprinted found anti-snuff lobbyists in ENSP additional "wrong". They forgot to remove half a sentence.

                        - But you did not press the scripture again before it was officially presented. It was therefore necessary at the last moment-degree tilt of the remaining sentence that was favorable to the Swedish snus, says Aftonbladet source.

                        If you hold up the side of a lamp, you can read what it said from the beginning:

                        "An increased incidence of oral cancer has been detected among snus users in North America, but not as clearly in Sweden."

                        After tipping exandet sentence reads:

                        "An increased incidence of oral cancer has been detected among snus users."
                        Available in few copies

                        Following the publication was printed signature on one more time. The tipping exade version is thus only in the few specimens that were presented at the announcement 2004th

                        The doctored report forms, according to Aftonbladet experience, remains a significant part of the knowledge that the European Commission has about Swedish snus.
                        "One must not flanka"

                        Many Swedes is thanked in the report, including Professor Hans Gilljam, snuff critics at the Karolinska Institute and at the same time advise the pharmaceutical giant Pfizer, which manufactures anti-nicotine drug Champix, which Aftonbladet earlier reported.

                        - I am not aware of the report, but I know of another who came later as I participate in as a writer, he says.

                        Is it normal to change in academic texts in the EU reports?

                        - No, the lyrics supposed to be on a scientific basis. There is not much leeway. You may not flanka,-says Giljam.

                        Paul Nordgren from think tank Tobacco Facts, funded by the Public Health Institute (FHI), has written a piece in the report.

                        He also thanked the ENSP, but could not be reached for comment.
                        So, the EU manipulated one of it's own smoleless-studies with whiteout, because it wasn't "anti-tobaccoey" enough for their liking.

                        I assume that this has also happened to the EU's own "SCENIHR" study, which is a weird piece of science. You see hundreds of accurate statistics and charts clearly showing the harmlessness of smokeless tobacco, and everything is mainly commented with the old "all tobacco is evil - blah blah", as if the authors didn't want to see the truth or rather as if they wanted to fool unobservant readers (decision makers?).

                        The full SCENIHR-study is here: http://ec.europa.eu/health/ph_risk/c...nihr_o_013.pdf

                        Cheers!

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                        • whalen
                          Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 6593

                          #27
                          I ran it through the Texas Translation and got this - Screw U and your little dog too, Pardner.
                          wiki "Popcorn Sutton" a true COOT!

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                          • pris

                            #28
                            Thanks chainsnuser.

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                            • whalen
                              Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 6593

                              #29
                              What exactly is with the Anti's, why all the hate and perseverance? I know logic and science has nothing to do with it, but it seems to be pure hate at work, and Lawyers.
                              wiki "Popcorn Sutton" a true COOT!

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                              • Snusdog
                                Member
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 6752

                                #30
                                Originally posted by pris
                                Thanks Dog, Yeah I tried that but just get
                                Sorry, we are unable to translate the page you requested.
                                try Bing translate........I think that is actually the one I used and it did fine


                                Edit: never mind.....I see the translation has been provided.......guess I should read all the way down the thread before I post...........
                                When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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