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  • darkwing
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    • Oct 2007
    • 415

    #1

    Snus becomes trendy in NYC

    From New York Observer:

    Snus Is on the Loose! Swedish Snuff Beats Bloomberg Tobacco Ban
    Attention, smokers: This Scandinavian import tastes grrrreat! And chances are pretty good it won’t make your tongue fall off!

    by Joe Pompeo | July 29, 2008 | Tags: Arts & CultureSnus
    This article was published in the August 4, 2008, edition of The New York Observer.

    On a recent Friday evening, two New York City gentlemen in their 20s were sitting at Vol de Nuit, a Belgian beer bar in the West Village. After some conversation, they removed a couple of small, tea-bag-like packets stuffed with tobacco out of a circular black plastic container the size of a hockey puck and, between sips of Pilsner, placed them inside their respective upper lips.

    First came the burning sensation, followed by a slightly unpleasant taste, and then, the nicotine buzz.

    “It combines the cleanliness of not smoking with the pleasure of tobacco,” said one of the men, who wished only to be identified by his first name, Lucas, of the substance, a product imported from Sweden called “snus” (rhymes with “loose”). “It’s like a secret. Nobody really has to know you’re doing it.”

    In a city where the act of lighting up in a bar or restaurant increasingly seems a part of ancient history, where smokers now huddle in angry little knots under scaffolding, shunned by polite society, could snus be the up-and-coming vice of choice?

    “We sell out of them like candy—it’s very popular,” said Mario Chebly, manager of the smoke shop Shisha International on West Fourth Street, of packages of snus, which retail for a recession-friendly $5 apiece (some stores are now pricing cigarettes at $10 per pack). It was a little after 2 p.m. on a Sunday afternoon, and Mr. Chebly was standing beside a refrigerated display case of General brand snus, flanked by shelves of Marlboros and Dunhills. He’d sold 14 containers of the moist oral tobacco to “nice, good-looking, professional people” since opening at around 11 that morning.

    General, also found in the upscale cigar chain Barclay Rex, is owned by the smokeless tobacco giant Swedish Match, based in Stockholm; snus is immensely popular in Scandinavia. In May, Camel started test-marketing its own brand—considered by some snus enthusiasts to be somewhat less appetizing, maybe even a bit lowbrow—in New York bars like the Library in the East Village and Greenpoint’s Studio B.

    “We’re pleased with the results,” said David Howard, a spokesman for Camel’s parent brand, R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company.

    The use of snus brings a certain class, if that’s possible, to this consumer category. It’s quite discreet, and unlike the chewing tobacco or dip favored by baseball players, doesn’t require spitting. And while snus tins do come with the requisite warnings of mouth cancer, gum disease and—yikes!—tooth loss, for some nicotine addicts, it seems like a slightly healthier alternative to hacking up a lung each morning, or smelling like they just bathed in an ashtray.

    Then there’s the snob appeal. “People here, they trust everything from Europe,” Mr. Chebly remarked. The fact that the European Union banned the sale of snus for public-health reasons in 1992 (Sweden was granted a waiver) might also add to the mystique. And so much history! During the 18th century, dry nasal snuff, carried not in plastic but “small masterpieces of gold, silver or other precious material,” according to the Swedish Match Web site, was a standard trapping of the European aristocracy. It fell out of favor with the upper classes during the French Revolution, but in the 1800s, Swedish farmers began tucking it under their lips while they worked. Presto: snus.

    Presumably, it is enthralling the same New Yorkers lured by the city’s hookah bars, old-worldish neo-speakeasies and newly popular absinthe cocktail hours. Maybe at some point snus will even replace the hipster’s Camel Lights.

    Or maybe not.

    “When I first showed up with it, it was met with disgust,” said Mike Magill, a 29-year-old acoustical engineer who in 2004 moved to Sweden, where he discovered snuff and snus, in an e-mail. He said snus still seemed to have a stigma attached to it given its unfortunate association with chew and dip. “I don’t know if upscale East Coasters are willing to accept a product that so closely resembles a typically poor and Southern substance.”

    According to Barclay Rex’s owner, Vince Nastri, however, snus “has already caught on.” His Financial District location sells about 70 tins each week.

    “It’s a new product here,” Mr. Nastri said, “and people are curious.”

    jpompeo@observer.com

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  • lxskllr
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    • Sep 2007
    • 13435

    #2
    That's terrible :^( I think I hear something outside... Is that the tax man? :^O

    Nothing good will come of snus being popular. These are the good old days boys, enjoy them while you can... :^/

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    • Premium Parrots
      Super Moderators
      • Feb 2008
      • 9760

      #3
      Re: Snus becomes trendy in NYC

      Originally posted by darkwing
      From New York Observer:...........
      ..........According to Barclay Rex’s owner, Vince Nastri, however, snus “has already caught on.” His Financial District location sells about 70 tins each week.


      Ok..... which one of you guys lives there. Its probably just one of us with a bad snus habit. :lol:
      Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......





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      • Jason
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        • Jan 2008
        • 1370

        #4
        Originally posted by lxskllr
        That's terrible :^( I think I hear something outside... Is that the tax man? :^O

        Nothing good will come of snus being popular. These are the good old days boys, enjoy them while you can... :^/
        I have to agree. If snus really is becoming that popular, it'll be the beginning of the end... :cry:

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        • CWC
          Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 114

          #5
          The thing I am trying to get my brain around is $10 dollar a pack cigs? If I lived in NY and still smoked cigs I wonder if I would spend more on gas or smokes a week??

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          • Premium Parrots
            Super Moderators
            • Feb 2008
            • 9760

            #6
            The $10 a pack is just for the cigs. Ya have to remember to add the cost of the iron lung that you're gonna need if ya kept smokin em. Well, that and the chemo, surgery, intensive care, casket, urn, and any number of unknown expenses. Oh.....and ya gotta pay the priest or minister to say a few words at the funeral.
            PP
            Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......





            I've been wrong lots of times.  Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.


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            • snusfather
              Member
              • Jun 2008
              • 227

              #7
              Originally posted by Jason
              Originally posted by lxskllr
              That's terrible :^( I think I hear something outside... Is that the tax man? :^O

              Nothing good will come of snus being popular. These are the good old days boys, enjoy them while you can... :^/
              I have to agree. If snus really is becoming that popular, it'll be the beginning of the end... :cry:
              I couln't agree more.

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              • CWC
                Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 114

                #8
                Originally posted by Premium Parrots
                Oh.....and ya gotta pay the priest or minister to say a few words at the funeral.
                PP
                Well I try to keep in good standings to avoid this bill, would like a prayer but as far as the funeral, just plant me and be done. Still have to pay the man with the shovel though don't I?

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                • Dead Rabbit
                  Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 315

                  #9
                  It’s only a matter of time. Snus is going to eventually blow up in the U.S. Mark my words, as much as I hate to admit it, it always starts first in Manhattan. I, too, fear the taxes. I also have a slight irrational feeling to it becoming popular comparable to how I reacted back in high school when some music I deemed my own little secret became mainstream.

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                  • sagedil
                    Member
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 7077

                    #10
                    Well I figure that American snus will get their act together eventually, and will serve much of the snus population here. Let them tax THAT to death, and I will keep buying from Buysnus. If you think about it, the American onslaught of snus might just become our best friend and keep the Gubernment from focusing in on our Swedish connection,

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                    • exexpat93
                      Member
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 76

                      #11
                      Parrots

                      P Parrot!

                      Oh, now your just putting smoking in too good a light. LOL!

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                      • alex
                        Member
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 226

                        #12
                        We are going to have to hide this site from google.

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                        • ---Nicotinic Acid---
                          Member
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 134

                          #13
                          I would LOVE to be able to go to my local tobacco store and pick up a roll of Ettan or Goat Rape..........HUGE Snus fridges in every gas station............

                          Sorry guys, your nightmare is my fantasy.

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                          • alex
                            Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 226

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ---Nicotinic Acid---
                            I would LOVE to be able to go to my local tobacco store and pick up a roll of Ettan or Goat Rape..........HUGE Snus fridges in every gas station............

                            Sorry guys, your nightmare is my fantasy.
                            Or customs starts taking serious note and they tax the living shit out of orders. And R.J. Reynolds and Phillip Morris use their lobbyists to crush Swedish Match from coming here.

                            :evil:

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                            • bakerbarber
                              Member
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 1947

                              #15
                              I'm sure someone famous will be caught slipping a portion in and before you know it TMZ will be asking celebrities, "Skruf Stark or N&J?"

                              Then they'll dig up some quack who'll tell them all how they should take your kids away because second hand snusing can make them pigeon toed.

                              Then Oprah will get someone on to cry a lot about how snus ruined her marriage and put her in bankruptcy.

                              Just wait until they bust the first snus den and tear down with haz mat teams the first snus lab.

                              Or maybe it could be positive and seen as a real alternative to smoking and taken for what it is without being labeled as anything it's not.

                              We'll see.

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