Snus becomes trendy in NYC

[nester024]

Bloomberg has banned smoking and trans fats, and has now forced all fast food restaurants to post calorie counts on all advertisements and menus. He is committed to determining what is good for you, and if this picks up, it will become a problem. As it is, cigarettes are not legal to ship to NYC addresses. Those who had shipments were tracked and charged the taxes for them. Personally I am quite happy having my snus shipped, a $4 can of Catch would be $6-10 in New York if it were taxed. And quite frankly the commercials for smoke-free housing are really startng to get on my nerves ("I can smell smoke, does that mean it's hurting me?!?!?"). Politicians have zero scientific skills themselves and rely on the one individual who made the most sense to them.

My problems with the city government here bug me enough, but the restriction of one's personal freedom of choice is despicable.

[Nihil]

Well I figure that American snus will get their act together eventually, and will serve much of the snus population here. Let them tax THAT to death, and I will keep buying from Buysnus. If you think about it, the American onslaught of snus might just become our best friend and keep the Gubernment from focusing in on our Swedish connection.

I hope so. Not every state could be that stupid, but if they try to tax the hell out of of it, or ban it, I'll just have to grow my own.

[grimmfaust]

I do worry that our government will eventually try to screw with snus...once they notice they can make money off of it...some more things have to continue to pay for the millions a month we are spending on the wars we are in... :cry:

[chainsnuser]

I do some more things have to continue to pay for the millions a month we are spending on the wars we are in... :cry:

Millions a day! :wink:

Cheers!

[---Nicotinic Acid---]

Bloomberg has banned smoking and trans fats, and has now forced all fast food restaurants to post calorie counts on all advertisements and menus. He is committed to determining what is good for you, and if this picks up, it will become a problem. As it is, cigarettes are not legal to ship to NYC addresses. Those who had shipments were tracked and charged the taxes for them. Personally I am quite happy having my snus shipped, a $4 can of Catch would be $6-10 in New York if it were taxed. And quite frankly the commercials for smoke-free housing are really startng to get on my nerves ("I can smell smoke, does that mean it's hurting me?!?!?"). Politicians have zero scientific skills themselves and rely on the one individual who made the most sense to them.

My problems with the city government here bug me enough, but the restriction of one's personal freedom of choice is despicable.

When they first banned smoking here in Chicago, I honestly felt like blowing my brains out. I can't quite explain it, but I felt my country had ostracized me: my strong partriotic spirit has not nor ever will recovery itself from that blow, even if I never smoke again.

But I have optimism regarding the future of snus, nasal snuff, and perhaps even domestic dip: We will win. We will win because tobacco is one of the strongest of medicines nature has (coffee being the foremost, imo). We may not live to see it, but Alcohol and refined carbs/sugars will have the finger pointed at them and smokeless tobacco will be recognized as benign, nay - theraputic.

[Svarthvitt]

You just wait, if you're complaining about 5$ per tin of snus and 10$ for the cigs, here in Norway it costs about 13$ per tin of snus and 15$ for the cheapest packs of cigarettes. xD
Awfully expensive, but the snus is worth it!

[dy2105]

Bloomberg has banned smoking and trans fats, and has now forced all fast food restaurants to post calorie counts on all advertisements and menus. He is committed to determining what is good for you, and if this picks up, it will become a problem. As it is, cigarettes are not legal to ship to NYC addresses. Those who had shipments were tracked and charged the taxes for them. Personally I am quite happy having my snus shipped, a $4 can of Catch would be $6-10 in New York if it were taxed. And quite frankly the commercials for smoke-free housing are really startng to get on my nerves ("I can smell smoke, does that mean it's hurting me?!?!?"). Politicians have zero scientific skills themselves and rely on the one individual who made the most sense to them.

My problems with the city government here bug me enough, but the restriction of one's personal freedom of choice is despicable.

This brings up a good point, and I hope whoever is in charge makes the appropriate decision regarding Snus. Honestly, I think that if there must be taxes on tobacco products then the tax should be proportionate to the cancer related risks of pure tobacco. This requires extensive tests that we don't have because tobacco is synonymous with American tobacco in American scientific studies, and American tobacco products, as we know, have many more harmful chemicals aside from the tobacco itself. On top of that, American tobacco is not regulated by the FDA which means the tobacco companies could put just about anything in cigarettes without having to inform it's consumer as to the contents. Swedish snus, though, has the ingredients right on the tin, which is a sign of some form of regulation which is good, i think.. Either way, it's a perfect transition into a rant:

Tobacco and alcohol products should be required to be labeled just like any other legal substance we put in our body. If it goes in your body and it doesn't have a nutrition label on it, it should be illegal. PERIOD. People have a right to know what they are putting into their body. And NO, the label: "Caution: Cigarettes might kill you" is not good enough!!

That's just the beginning too and one of the most important flaws in U.S. policy regarding the health of its citizens. Oh, and that flaw is a flaw in the Federal Government since it applies to tobacco companies in general across all states. Bloomberg's supposed incompetence is small potatoes in comparison.

[fedora]

Well, this is freaky.

I wouldn't mind being able to go to a local store and get real Swedish Snus, but am concerned that the costs will be so darn high. Here in California they'll tax the daylights out of it and it will cost probably 7-8 dollars a can, and will be old and out of date and they may only have a few brands and types.

I really just hope that Northerner and the other stores keep their prices low and use economy shipping to make it cheap and worthwhile to purchase from them.

Otherwise my new habit will die a fast death - and I just got started. :cry:

But, I'll try a healthy (because snus is healthier than cigs) dose of optimism and hope for the best