makla products

[lxskllr]

ok! but what side effects should i expect from that PH level (makla)...?

Eroded gums most likely. The amount would vary by the individual. Some people are rugged, and others delicate.

[lee777]

what a bad news...and does snus has a "safe" PH level...?

anyway its strange because when i put the makla under lip it doesnt burn at all...anyway thanks for the advice!

snus is safer..?

[lxskllr]

what a bad news...and does snus has a "safe" PH level...?

anyway its strange because when i put the makla under lip it doesnt burn at all...anyway thanks for the advice!

snus is safer..?

Snus is safer, but It's a balancing act. Probably the ideal ph would be 7, but then you wouldn't get much nicotine. It needs to be alkali to release it. Regular snus ph is around 8.5. Stark snus is probably a bit over 9, but I don't know that for sure, and makla is about 11.

Honestly, I don't think most of us know the ins and outs of makla. This is primarily a Swedish snus forum, so that's where everyone's attention has been focused. You might find more on a web search if you look for people that have used it a long time. I'm not sure how you'd find that. Maybe there's some north African forums where it would show up. I may look around later out of interest. I don't have time right now, but the question interests me.

Swedish Match studies have indicated that strong snus is harder on gums than regular snus. I would expect makla to be even worse.

[lee777]

ok got it!

thank so much for everything, very kind!

[lee777]

uhh just another quick question..

due to the high makla PH level, will the gum simply "dry out" or will it "erodes" ( gums tissue lost)...?

thats important, thanks!

[lxskllr]

uhh just another quick question..

due to the high makla PH level, will the gum simply "dry out" or will it "erodes" ( gums tissue lost)...?

thats important, thanks!

I don't know what the mechanism is. My guess would be the high ph damages the tissue, causing it to die off. Maybe someone more knowledgeable knows for sure.

[nate.n]

uhh just another quick question..

due to the high makla PH level, will the gum simply "dry out" or will it "erodes" ( gums tissue lost)...?

thats important, thanks!

From what i have experience with high ph levels in dip it can give you a chemical burn on the gums and cheek

[lee777]

thanks guys.

be patients, allow me another question if i can...may i ask you why the makla el kantara doesnt burn at all for me...? indeed somewhere ive read it is the smoothest...maybe its PH level is lower than others...? something with an elevated PH level should burns, isnt it...?

anyway i usually keep it in the mouth for about 5-10 minutes because of the nic hit...it is a little time...

thanks so much

now its official: im paranoid i

thath why I thought it was harmless at all...

[nate.n]

thanks guys.

be patients, allow me another question if i can...may i ask you why the makla el kantara doesnt burn at all for me...? indeed somewhere ive read it is the smoothest...maybe its PH level is lower than others...? something with an elevated PH level should burns, isnt it...?

anyway i usually keep it in the mouth for about 5-10 minutes because of the nic hit...it is a little time...

thanks so much

now its official: im paranoid i

thath why I thought it was harmless at all...

I am not sure as i have not used makla but if i was you i would try and get some snus. Odens and thunder will be as close as you can get to the nicotine in makla and you wont have to worry about your gums

[lee777]

yes i will try them as soon as i can, but i still have some makla el kantara...

ok my last question i promise

the gums issue is reversible...?

thank you all for the patience

[lxskllr]

yes i will try them as soon as i can, but i still have some makla el kantara...

ok my last question i promise

the gums issue is reversible...?

thank you all for the patience

Depends? Recession is permanent, but I don't know about the skin above the gumline. Cells would almost have to regenerate, right?

[lee777]

i dont know if the can regenerate... anyway thanks for the infos!

[Faylool]

I bought Chema with my Mr. Snuff order or a try. Online describes Chema and Makla as the same thing with different names. It's unusually bitter. I don't like bitter, but it's not too salty like snus. It's unusually smelly but it sys leave it open a couple dys and the ammonia will lessen. There nasal snuffs like that too. All in all I'm leaning towards the sweet spices non male type mild pipe tobaccos for overall best tobacco experience. Too bad it must be ignited! Takes more than half the yummy-ness away! I could smell a fresh bag of the least smokey most feminine ones all day. Earthy but right. Can't the ph be altered without all the salt? I guess not huh. Dumb newbies. Don't rock the boat

[Faylool]

Discovered I have both Chema and a Makla for Belgium. Used tea bag and they aren't any more bitter than a snus and almost no salt or flavor. Kind of uneventful except the nic hit. Harsh on the gum I can tell but after 10-15 minutes I can take it out because had enough nic for me. I think I'll be using them up for quick uneventful nic hit periodically. Might buy again if the price was right. Forget what they cost. Leaving open just to see if it helps a little with some of the cat pee smell, which I can't taste but....may as well.

[lee777]

so have you tried both chema and makla? what kind of makla? i have el kantara (menthol)

what you mean by "harsh" on gums...? makla el kantara doesnt burn at all...instead chema mint burns a lot...but it may be due to the high mint content...i dont know...