Let’s stop for a second and recall how all this went down. I think as we do, we might find that a lot of the mutual frustration voiced here is mutually understandable.
When the contest started it seemed to be on a whim and to liven things up a bit. It was never clear (until later) that there would be any prizes. Whalen did a fantastic job putting it together and it was a great deal of fun.
Towards the end of the contest GN said he would send the winners some snus and asked them to send him their addresses via email.
However, shortly thereafter the whole forum blew up over Frosted getting banned. During the course of that conversation there was a great deal of bitching about GN sending free snus to members and thus trying to buy off the site.
My guess is that since sending free snus seemed to upset everyone GN was hesitant to send out more. Therefore, the contest (which never started as a free give away but only became one because everyone kept asking) became a non-give away because everyone seemed to say that’s how things should be.
Fast forward a month or so and now we are all upset because we did not get snus that we say we do not like because we said we do not want it. Well it can’t be both ways. We need to make up our minds.
Unfortunately in the midst of all this there have been civilian casualties. The first is Whalen, who I did not realize until he posted it, felt responsible and somehow in the middle of the whole thing. I don’t think that was ever anyone’s intent or expectation. In other words, at least for myself, I never felt whalen was responsible for insuring the prizes.
The second group of civilian casualties are the everyday members of the site who had no part in the bitching about GN sending snus and were only playing the game in good faith. They are disappointed and don’t really know all the background. All they know is that they were looking forward to snus and it did not come.
My point in writing this is for them. I don’t think anyone was trying to screw or cheat anyone (certainly not Whalen). Things unfold in real time and when we understand the context in which decisions were made (even when we disagree) they become a bit more understandable. That’s all.
I’ll leave ya’ll to work out the details with GN.
When the contest started it seemed to be on a whim and to liven things up a bit. It was never clear (until later) that there would be any prizes. Whalen did a fantastic job putting it together and it was a great deal of fun.
Towards the end of the contest GN said he would send the winners some snus and asked them to send him their addresses via email.
However, shortly thereafter the whole forum blew up over Frosted getting banned. During the course of that conversation there was a great deal of bitching about GN sending free snus to members and thus trying to buy off the site.
My guess is that since sending free snus seemed to upset everyone GN was hesitant to send out more. Therefore, the contest (which never started as a free give away but only became one because everyone kept asking) became a non-give away because everyone seemed to say that’s how things should be.
Fast forward a month or so and now we are all upset because we did not get snus that we say we do not like because we said we do not want it. Well it can’t be both ways. We need to make up our minds.
Unfortunately in the midst of all this there have been civilian casualties. The first is Whalen, who I did not realize until he posted it, felt responsible and somehow in the middle of the whole thing. I don’t think that was ever anyone’s intent or expectation. In other words, at least for myself, I never felt whalen was responsible for insuring the prizes.
The second group of civilian casualties are the everyday members of the site who had no part in the bitching about GN sending snus and were only playing the game in good faith. They are disappointed and don’t really know all the background. All they know is that they were looking forward to snus and it did not come.
My point in writing this is for them. I don’t think anyone was trying to screw or cheat anyone (certainly not Whalen). Things unfold in real time and when we understand the context in which decisions were made (even when we disagree) they become a bit more understandable. That’s all.
I’ll leave ya’ll to work out the details with GN.
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I need to recall what was it ...? I now that 24 stock for Whalen but don't remember what I promised as prize , and besides I don't think Whalen talk to me so decided to ask community what was it
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